<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Has anyone ever tried powder coating a plate?<br> <br> Greg Newell<br> <br> Geoff Sykes wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:006a01c8134f$8e479860$6400a8c0@geoff2r3ofonmy" type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; "> <title>Message</title> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" name="GENERATOR"> <div><span class="562421919-20102007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Hi Mark --</font></span></div> <div><span class="562421919-20102007"></span> </div> <div><span class="562421919-20102007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">I can't see any evidence of structural damage. While the piano had not been tuned since it was purchased, (-41c), it appeared stable after a pitch raise and fine tuning. I'm guessing that the plate was, as you suggest, contaminated. The paint is very thick, but not brittle, and is coming up as a stiff sheet. Like in the course of drying and possibly shrinking it just sort of pulled away from the plate.</font></span></div> <div><span class="562421919-20102007"></span> </div> <div><span class="562421919-20102007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">We have a couple of excellent finish and touch-up guys here in Los Angeles. I have contacted them but have not heard back yet. I'll post their responses when they come in.</font></span></div> <div><span class="562421919-20102007"></span> </div> <div><span class="562421919-20102007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Thanks --</font></span></div> <div><span class="562421919-20102007"></span> </div> <div><span class="562421919-20102007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">-- Geoff Sykes</font></span></div> <div><span class="562421919-20102007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">-- Los Angeles</font></span></div> <div><span class="562421919-20102007"></span> </div> <div><span class="562421919-20102007"></span> </div> <blockquote style="margin-right: 0px;"> <div class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us"><font face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br> <b>From:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Potter<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 19, 2007 4:16 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Pianotech List<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: Peeling paint on Samick plate<br> <br> </font></div> <div>Hi Geoff -</div> <div> </div> <div>I have certainly never seen anything like it, and while it is difficult to determine very much from the photo, I am having a hard time imagining it happen unless:</div> <div>1.  There was/is some structural movement (expansion/contraction/cracking) of the plate along the finish "fault line".  We've had expanding action brackets, are we now moving into expanding plates? ;-)</div> <div>2.  There was a major contaminant inbedded in the plate along this line, causing the finish to 'float' above it as an unattached film, and finally cracking after enough temperature changes. </div> <div> </div> <div>I would certainly seek a possible warranty repair, and absent that, it will be very difficult to make this disappear, although it could certainly be greatly minimized.  What kind of finish do you think it is?  </div> <div> </div> <div>As always, before any repair ensues, I would try to first ascertain the cause.  If not structural, this would be a good situation to call in a first-rate touch-up artist.  </div> <div> </div> <div>Mark Potter</div> <div><br> <b><i>Geoff Sykes <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thetuner@ivories52.com"><thetuner@ivories52.com></a></i></b> wrote:</div> <blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;"> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" name="GENERATOR"> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="078421501-19102007">Greetings all --</span></font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="078421501-19102007"></span></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="078421501-19102007">I was called to work on a Bernhard Steiner piano today. Bernhard Steiner is currently owned by Samick. I think the piano was made in 2001 but the decoding of the serial number doesn't make sense, (KJKJG0141). Wouldn't KJKJ be 1011/1011? Anyway, attached is a photo of the plate showing the left side right under the music desk. Notice that the paint is peeling up in a very large and thick sheet across the curve of the plate. Has anyone else ever seen this? What did you do to correct, or fix, the problem. I'm thinking that if we can't get the store that sold it, (rumored to be out of business), or Samick to cover it under warranty then perhaps some never-fail CA glue. But... I'm open to suggestions. </span></font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="078421501-19102007"></span></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="078421501-19102007">-- Geoff Sykes</span></font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="078421501-19102007">-- Los Angeles</span></font></div> <br> <div><font size="2">No virus found in this outgoing message.<br> Checked by AVG Free Edition.<br> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1078 - Release Date: 10/18/2007 5:47 PM<br> </font></div> </blockquote> <br> </blockquote> </blockquote> </body> </html>