<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3199" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><EM>> If it's tall, with a full-blow action, it's not a spinet.  </EM></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><EM></EM></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Well, I said "tall (for a spinet)". I'd guess it was close to 40 inches tall - no shorter than that. The music desk was level with the lid.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Not trying to split hairs or challenge anyone, but rather determine the definition of spinet and console. To the best of my knowledge, there are two streams of piano type definition defining four types of vertical pianos (spinet, console, studio upright and upright) - the layperson's and the technical definitions. The layperson definition is based strictly on how tall the piano is. My understanding is that the technical definition of a spinet is that it has the drop action - whether or not it has the compressed or full size action does not matter. A console does not have the drop mechanism, i.e. the action sits on key capstans, but has a compressed-size action. Then the studio upright has the full action directly on capstans and the upright has the action either on capstans with riser extensions (think Yamaha U1 or U3), or the stickers common in the old uprights.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><EM></EM></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><EM>> Even if it's <BR>> console size, but has a drop action, it's a "drop-action  console."  </EM></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><EM></EM></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Opinions on this? IMHO, if it has a drop action, it is a spinet. Or do we use five classes on vertical pianos?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><EM></EM></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><EM>> If the <BR>> rear ends of the keys (capstans) extend under the wippens, then it's a <BR>> console.</EM></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><EM></EM></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Well, if it has a compressed action. If it has a full size action, it would be a studio upright.</DIV> <DIV><BR><EM>> Yes, a dealer might ask $2K, </EM></DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV>Right, which is why I defined "retail value" as what the dealer would ask for it....  Oops, I see I did not define "retail value". I meant to. Well, I guess there is another question: Does the phrase "retail value" mean what a dealer would ask for it? I thought that to be the case.</DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>> but through the newspaper, between private <BR>> parties, it might be hard to get more than $1200 - $1500 unless the finish <BR>> is really like new. </EM></DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV>Agreed. If even close to that. I see the majority of pianos like this go for somewhere between $500 and $1K in a private sale.</DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>> (Looks always seem to matter more than the quality of <BR>> the instrument)</EM></DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV>LOL! Good point. So sad, but oh so true. That's why I told the lady that there would easily be a $200 difference in the price of the piano if she were to be able to remove the 39 or so glued-on letters on the middle keys (ABCDEFG).</DIV> <DIV><EM><BR></EM></DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>----- Original Message ----- </FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial>>    If it's tall, with a full-blow action, it's not a spinet.  Even if it's <BR>> console size, but has a drop action, it's a "drop-action  console."  If the <BR>> rear ends of the keys (capstans) extend under the wippens, then it's a <BR>> console.<BR>>    Yes, a dealer might ask $2K, but through the newspaper, between private <BR>> parties, it might be hard to get more than $1200 - $1500 unless the finish <BR>> is really like new.  (Looks always seem to matter more than the quality of <BR>> the instrument)<BR>>    --David Nereson, RPT<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > I'm looking for a reality check on the retail value of a 1983 Baldwin <BR>> spinet - midwest USA prices.<BR>> <BR>> It is a tall one (for a spinet) with the Baldwin full-blow action. Case is <BR>> good to very good, and mechanically the piano is in very good condition - I <BR>> would estimate that it has average to light wear for a piano its age. The <BR>> regulation is good.<BR>> <BR>> I'm guessing that a dealer would ask about $2k for such a beast. Yes?<BR>> <BR>> Terry Farrell<BR></FONT></BODY></HTML>