<WBR>The problem with any kind of jig that would pre-stretch a string is that bass strings come in a variety of lengths. A string for the single strings would be need a much longer distance from hitch pin to tuning pin than the string up in the tenor section. The jig would have to come with a moveable hitch pin. The other problem is when you turn it on the tuning pin, for an upright it might not be a problem, but for a grand, you're going to have a heck of a time putting that string through the agraff. <br> <br> Hanging a weight on the end of string might be the best solution, but in order for it to be effective, you would need a weight of approximately 150 - 200 pounds. How are you going to attach that much weight to the end of a string?<br> <br> Sorry, Brian, but there is not easy solution. Sometimes we just have to do what we have to do, and leave it that.  <br> <br> <div style="CLEAR: both">Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT<br> Piano Tuner/Technician<br> Honolulu, HI<br> Author of <br> The Business of Piano Tuning<br> available from Potter Press<br> www.pianotuning.com</div> <br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: J Patrick Draine <jpdraine@gmail.com><br> To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org><br> Sent: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 1:47 pm<br> Subject: Re: has anyone ever tried this?<br> <br> <div id=AOLMsgPart_2_385d07f6-6b7b-46c9-9aa4-f8c7a23db4d5>Brian, <div>While I don't know if Mike Spaulding is 100% correct that "it's all in the bends", but if you really wanted to pre-stretch the string your could take some old pinblock(s), pound in a hitchpin, perhaps make some kind of bridge, drive a tuning pin in an appropriate tuning pin hole, and pull it up to tension. So .. if you really want to pre-stretch, make yourself a monochord. </div> <div>Patrick<br> <br> <div><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 11/6/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Brian Doepke</B> <<A href="mailto:bdoepke@verizon.net"> bdoepke@verizon.net</A>> wrote:</SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><br> The piano wire is from a bi-chord and it has 1 wrapping of copper around the<br> core.<br> <br> Sorry for the confusion.<br> <br> I still can't believe that someone has not discovered a way to "pre-stretch"<br> a new bass string.  Maybe something like hanging a weight on the end without<br> the loop?<br> <br> Brian P. Doepke, (dep-kee)<br> </BLOCKQUOTE></div> <br> </div> </div> <div class="AOLPromoFooter"> <hr style="margin-top:10px;" /> Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free <a href="http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/index.htm?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000970" target="_blank">AOL Mail</a>!<br/> </div>