<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">The change in tone on this piano was astounding.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">I have been chasing voicing issues that are pinning</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">issues.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>Ding ding ding ding. This is what Chris Robinson and Roger Jolly have been preaching for a long while; all this baloney about zero friction is a crock of merde. In most pianos, in most applications, 3-4-5 swings is close to ideal for the shank flange. I'm glad, Dave, that you now have concrete, practical, aural evidence of the crucial tonal importance of proper shank flange friction. We repin carefully on every single set of new flanges we install, regardless of maker. It's that important. Proper flange friction, especially at the shank flange, </SPAN><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">has a radical positive effect on the touch, the "right" feeling of the action; it becomes crisper, "lighter," more controllable at low volume.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>If you maintain high-use Asian pianos, you can become a voodoo, iconic "voicing technician," respected and desired, if you carefully repin the shank flanges. We repin the shank flanges on every new client with an Asian piano (and other makers on a case-by-case basis) as a matter of course. There's oodles in the archives about the latest, hippest methods; the Mannino broaches are the key.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>You can't lose with this. Most times you repin, everything gets startlingly better, and you're a hero. Woo-hoo.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>xoDavid Andersen</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV>On Nov 7, 2007, at 6:08 PM, David Renaud wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">There were 27 swings on some hammer flanges.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">Some birds eyes required #22 pin to be tight.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">The pins were rotating in some bird eyes.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Helvetica; min-height: 19.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Helvetica; min-height: 19.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">The change in tone on this piano was astounding.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">I have been chasing voicing issues that are pining</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">issues.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Helvetica; min-height: 19.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">The rep. works.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Helvetica; min-height: 19.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">One comment was that Steinway spec for hammer flange<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">pinning is .1 to 4 grams. There is talk of a zero</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">friction policy. Excuse my ignorance, but are you<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">kidding, is that a joke. Do they really think one</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">tenth on one gram is acceptable.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Helvetica; min-height: 19.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica"><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>If so I should post a recording of the change<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">in tone in this octave for all to hear. Also it</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">is imposable<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>to get the rep springs soft enough</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">not to jump and still allow the rep. lever to support</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">the hammer on fast trills. Impossible I say with<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">.1 gram resistance.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Helvetica; min-height: 19.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica"><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Now I have to do the whole piano.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Helvetica; min-height: 19.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica"><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>The repined octave is silky smooth.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica"><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>The very next note A5 screams upper harmonics and<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">has clack in the tone. The clack was not so noticeable</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">when ever thing was the same, but now with a clean</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Helvetica">point of reference it is so clearly deficient.</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></SPAN></DIV></BODY></HTML>