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<<Why in the world <br><pre>would anyone put 3/0 pins in a new block???>><br><br>From what I gather, the "technician" who did the "rebuild" probably was just too lazy to order smaller pins, or was grossly under-prepared and that's the smallest sozed pins he had at the moment. Or...because there might be less "flagpolling" since Steinway grands don't have tuning pin bushings.<br></pre><br>Terry Peterson<br><br>> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:36:35 -0600<br>> From: rnossaman@cox.net<br>> To: l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net; pianotech@ptg.org<br>> Subject: Re: stumped<br>> <br>> Leslie Bartlett wrote:<br>> > I tuned (no I really didn't) for "Dennis" today- and old Howard (sn <br>> > 220***- for which I didn't find a reasonable match in Pierce's). The <br>> > retired engineer had married a Russian lady, young enough to be his <br>> > daughter- and nicely I made that mistake. Bass strings were dead, <br>> > multiple bridge cracks, the strings painted gold, several replaced, <br>> > about six pins in the center where a tiny amount of counterclockwise <br>> > pressure sent the string a half or whole tone flat. They also popped <br>> > loudly when they let loose- like Baldwin, only it was virtually no <br>> > useful tension on the pin. There were a couple pins up around note 80 <br>> > which were the same way. Hammer 88 was within 1mm of having the felt <br>> > open up at the bottom of the grooves on the flat-topped hammers. <br>> > Problem was, the man had bought this as a birthday present for this wife <br>> > who is a HIGH level concert player while she was out of the country. <br>> > I was there over four hours, so mad that they guy had gotten screwed (I <br>> > believe the damage was done before prior owner sold it to him- she <br>> > wasn't a player, so bought it mostly as furniture), and that I couldn't <br>> > make a decent tuning. The Russian asked if I had ever tuned a piano <br>> > like this before
. I pulled the action and went through <br>> > everything with him, and he seemed more than satisfied that little if <br>> > anything could be done- but the wife- I think she wanted me dead. <br>> > <br>> > When and HOW does one just give up on a POS when nothing works? This <br>> > really bothered me. I've tuned Howards before and hated them, but got <br>> > them tuned. Nothing rendered decently, nothing stayed stable for me. <br>> > I've never had anything quite like this before, and hope I never do again.<br>> > <br>> > They can't afford another piano, though their house was probably valued <br>> > at twice mine, and they had two rather new cars (Honda an Buick) I <br>> > think. I'm coming off a week of three Houston Symphony Tunings, <br>> > another major Hall, two tunings of the most expensive piano in town, and <br>> > directing two performances of the opera Amahl and the Night Visitors. <br>> > I know I was tired
But I had just done quite ok on a Petrof for one <br>> > of my really persnickety customers, so I haven't completely lost my <br>> > "tuning mind". I'm mad they got screwed, mad she can't play musically <br>> > on this pos, but still feel somehow I should have been able to do <br>> > something to make it work. Sorry to be kind of nuts here, but I'm <br>> > feeling kind of lost.<br>> > <br>> > les bartlett<br>> > <br>> <br>> It doesn't matter what they just did, or someone else just <br>> did, or what anyone's intentions and expectations may be. The <br>> bottom line is the current condition of the piano and what can <br>> be done with it at what price to meet performance <br>> expectations. That's it. It doesn't realistically get any more <br>> complicated than that without your sanction.<br>> <br>> Case in point: Some months ago, I looked at a piano (Steinway <br>> L) that had been "rebuilt", but had a number of insupportable <br>> problems which prompted the call to me to look at it. I find <br>> touch weights in the mid 70s, and one of the more dramatic and <br>> extensive killer octave manifestation I've seen in all the <br>> years I've been in business. The soundboard is, of course, <br>> original and "repaired".<br>> <br>> The plate seems to have been dipped in a glaringly copper <br>> colored goo, which is flaking off in large chunks. The <br>> thinnest loose chunk I found was 0.75mm thick.<br>> <br>> Downbearing was from 1°+ in the tenor, to -2.5° in the high <br>> treble, with negative crown through the top half of the scale.<br>> <br>> The pinblock was new, with new 3/0 pins! Why in the world <br>> would anyone put 3/0 pins in a new block???<br>> <br>> Bottom line is that the money they spent on the previous <br>> rebuild was not only wasted, but actually did damage. This <br>> instrument is the source of evening therapy for the owner, and <br>> hasn't delivered anything but misery since it was "rebuilt". <br>> To finally get around to where this is going, I could have <br>> done a grand or two worth of regulation and voicing to try and <br>> minimize the wretchedness of this piano, but would have just <br>> further screwed the poor guy in doing so, in my estimation. <br>> Sure, I felt sorry for him, but there wasn't anything real I <br>> could do to help without buying the problem myself. So I did <br>> the hard thing and told and showed him (as I could) in painful <br>> detail what was done, what wasn't done, what should have <br>> minimally been done, and what was possible. He ultimately went <br>> for what was possible, and the piano came in today for a <br>> redesign and remanufacture. After all the misery, and all the <br>> money wasted, I hope and fully expect to supply him with a <br>> happy ending. I intend to give it my best shot.<br>> <br>> So here's the deal. The situation that was set up before you <br>> became involved isn't your fault or problem. It's also not <br>> your problem to come up with a fix that's contrary to reality. <br>> If it takes doing over, that's what it takes. If the customer <br>> won't accept that, they are free to put themselves on the <br>> plate of the next bottom feeder in line. There are plenty to <br>> accommodate. Meanwhile, you maintain supportable standards and <br>> credibility, and minimize losing projects.<br>> <br>> Ain't no free lunch.<br>> <br>> Ron N<br><br /><hr />Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. <a href='www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline' target='_new'>Join in!</a></body>
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