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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wim,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry for the delay, I don't get on the list very
often. I haven't been to Hawaii for 7 or 8 years or so. When I was there all I
did was surf and hang out, so I can understand where you're coming from. Ever
run into Leonard Hanacheck, he's a tech from around San Jose that moved to Maui
maybe 20 years ago. Say hi from me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fenton</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=wimblees@aol.com href="mailto:wimblees@aol.com">Willem Blees</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 30, 2007 9:16
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Key Lead Replacement</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><WBR>Fenton.<BR><BR>When I moved to Hawaii, I got rid of all my
big tools. All I have is a 6' table that I set up in my garage, which I use as
my bench. My only other expense is a the chisel and the shellac. <BR><BR>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT<BR>Piano
Tuner/Technician<BR>Honolulu, HI<BR>Author of <BR>The Business of Piano
Tuning<BR>available from Potter
Press<BR>www.pianotuning.com</DIV><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
Fenton Murray <fmurray@cruzio.com><BR>To: Pianotech List
<pianotech@ptg.org><BR>Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 7:30 pm<BR>Subject: Re:
Key Lead Replacement<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Well, I get your point, Wim. It would certainly
take me no more than 2 hrs, probably less. It is much more enjoyable and
satisfying to me to press out the old and install the new. Problem solved, no
more splitting keys, looks great, less filling. I'm sure I could replace the
leads in the same amount of time it would take me to shave and seal them. See
attached photo of modified arbor press from Dana M., it's a joy to use tools
like this. And no lead dust. Well, maybe a little.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fenton</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=wimblees@aol.com href="mailto:wimblees@aol.com">Willem Blees</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:07
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Key Lead Replacement</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Fenton Murray <<A
href="mailto:fmurray@cruzio.com">fmurray@cruzio.com</A>><BR>To: Pianotech
List <<A
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>><BR>Sent: Thu, 29
Nov 2007 4:01 pm<BR>Subject: Re: Key Lead Replacement<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why not just replace the leads.<BR><BR><BR>It
takes me about 1 hour to shave off leads and shellac them. Can you
replace an entire set of leads in that amount of
time?<BR><BR>Wim<BR><BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=wimblees@aol.com href="mailto:wimblees@aol.com">Willem Blees</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 29, 2007
3:26 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Key Lead
Replacement</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Terry</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This question was asked several months ago. Here on Hawaii, we have a
lot of growing key lead problems. Around here we shave them off with a
chisel flush with the side of the key, and then give each lead a shot of
Shellac to seal them in. That seems to do the trick. But so far, I've not
encountered any Yamaha's with this problem. So this might be something
new. <BR></DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT<BR>Piano
Tuner/Technician<BR>Honolulu, HI<BR>Author of <BR>The Business of Piano
Tuning<BR>available from Potter Press<BR><A
href="http://www.pianotuning.com/"
target=_blank>www.pianotuning.com</A></DIV><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Farrell <<A
href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</A>><BR>To:
<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A><BR>Sent: Thu, 29
Nov 2007 1:08 pm<BR>Subject: Key Lead Replacement<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Looked at a 30 yo (guess) Yamaha G2 grand today with
keys sticking. It has growing key leads. Never seen that on a Yamaha
before. Grinding marks on many of the keys indicate that the leads were
ground down previously. I'm recommending that they replace all key
leads.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I've leaded keys as part of setting up an action.
But I've never just blindly replaced the leads, trying to duplicate the
original setup. I know that the owners definitely want to go minimal cost
with this one (Elk's Lodge).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Seems to me leads are often of slightly different
sizes, lengths, etc. If you are not carefully measuring Front Weights,
etc., what the heck do you do? Seems to me the fastest way would be to pop
the old lead out, weigh it, grab a lead of the same diameter, trim it
to the original weight and install. Or is that just too trashy an
approach? Do I tell them that we need to do a traditional weigh-off (but
we can't because action center friction hasn't been addressed, etc.)?
Evaluate the original FW curve and duplicate it (but that will mean some
plugging, etc., i.e. more cost)? What is an acceptable, minimal
approach?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Terry Farrell<BR>Farrell Piano</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><A href="http://www.farrellpiano.com/"
target=_blank>www.farrellpiano.com</A><BR><A
href="mailto:terry@farrellpiano.com">terry@farrellpiano.com</A></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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