<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"> <style>  </style>  </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Gary,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'> Could it be that the finish is reacting to the water in the mixture of Murphy’s? Would denatured alcohol remove the white “residue”?<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Perhaps it’s worth a try if you haven’t already.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Greg Newell<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Greg's Piano Forté<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>www.gregspianoforte.com<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>216-226-3791 (office)<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>216-470-8634 (mobile)<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary Fluke<br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:44 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Pianotech List<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: Ebony finish<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Mike,</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This piano has been messed about with somehow.  When washing the case with Murphy's Oil Soap the finish turns milky white as if there is a residue of some kind.  I've tried every solvent I have on hand and nothing removes it.  I have scrubbed it with detergents and solvents with a stiff nylon-bristle brush with no luck.  If it weren't for this problem, I would leave it in natural wood.  But, since I'll have to strip it, I'm considering the ebony finish.  Thanks for your input.</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gary</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:IFixPianos@yahoo.com" title="IFixPianos@yahoo.com">Michael Magness</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title="pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Monday, December 31, 2007 5:18 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: Ebony finish<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On Dec 31, 2007 11:50 AM, Gary Fluke <<a href="mailto:gary.fluke@verizon.net">gary.fluke@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> <div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I have a Mason and Hamlin console from 1957.  The walnut finish could stand to be done over again.  These pianos were also available in an ebony finish when new.  How would one apply an ebony finish to my piano? </span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gary Fluke</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Snohomish, WA</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><br> Walnut is a nice looking wood even by todays standards, when refinished right. The work it would take to re-do it in ebony would certainly be as much if not more as redoing it in it's "original" color. Everyone isn't looking for Oak or Cherry there are those who still believe that classic woods like walnut, pecan, even black walnut and other less used woods today are still classics. <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>A friend who used to, every so often, get a blonde beater from a school or church, would redo them in ebony simply because no one wanted blonde pianos. Stripping a blonde piano to the point where it will accept a decent stain is usually more trouble than it is worth because they have so much filler in them. He would use bondo to fill the nicks and gouges, coat it with a primer then several coats of black lacquer and 3 or 4 coats of clearcoat. <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><br clear=all> Mike<br> -- <br> The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.<br> Michael Magness<br> Magness Piano Service<br> 608-786-4404<br> <a href="http://www.IFixPianos.com">www.IFixPianos.com</a><br> email <a href="mailto:mike@ifixpianos.com">mike@ifixpianos.com</a> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html>