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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thanks, Mark. #1 sounds like it may be a good
and simple fix. I'll try it as I've got nothing to lose at this
stage.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Gary</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=bases-loaded76@sbcglobal.net
href="mailto:bases-loaded76@sbcglobal.net">Mark Potter</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:12
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Ebony finish</DIV>
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<DIV>Gary -</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Only you can see the condition of the finish, so any suggestions I might
make should be taken in lieu of that. Finishes that are in relatively
good condition offer multiple possible remedies, finishes in poor
condition offer fewer avenues. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>It WOULD seem that given your multiple cleaning treatments,
surely the finish is free of contaminants, so... here are some options
that come to mind ( I am assuming you do not have spray equipment?):</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>1) choose a particularly objectional piece, scuff sand with 320-400,
wipe clean w/mineral spirits, liberally apply a dark scratch-cover polish,
wipe off after 10-15 minutes or so. Wait a day or so to see if you like
the results. The most low-tech approach, that in the right situation yields
pretty good results with very little effort or expense.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>2) as above, but instead of applying scratch cover, apply a thinned
wiping varnish. Several recipes have been advocated on the forum over
the years. May take more than one coat. May require final rubbing
to ensure even sheed thruout.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>3) if above fails, strip and start over. Lotsa work!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Mark Potter</DIV>
<DIV>West Jefferson, OH</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><B><I>Gary Fluke <gary.fluke@verizon.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Greg,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I tried alchohol but that didn't do it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Gary</FONT></DIV>
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Newell</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 01, 2008 9:14
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Ebony finish</DIV>
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Could it be that the finish is reacting to the water in the mixture of
Murphy’s? Would denatured alcohol remove the white
“residue”?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Gary
Fluke<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:44 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Pianotech List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Ebony
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">This piano has been messed about
with somehow. When washing the case with Murphy's Oil Soap the
finish turns milky white as if there is a residue of some kind.
I've tried every solvent I have on hand and nothing removes it. I
have scrubbed it with detergents and solvents with a stiff
nylon-bristle brush with no luck. If it weren't for this
problem, I would leave it in natural wood. But, since I'll have to
strip it, I'm considering the ebony finish. Thanks for your
input.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">On Dec 31, 2007 11:50
AM, Gary Fluke <<A
href="mailto:gary.fluke@verizon.net">gary.fluke@verizon.net</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I have a Mason and Hamlin
console from 1957. The walnut finish could stand to be done over
again. These pianos were also available in an ebony finish when
new. How would one apply an ebony finish to my piano?
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Snohomish,
WA</SPAN><o:p></o:p></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><BR>Walnut is a nice
looking wood even by todays standards, when refinished right. The work
it would take to re-do it in ebony would certainly be as much if not
more as redoing it in it's "original" color. Everyone isn't looking
for Oak or Cherry there are those who still believe that classic woods
like walnut, pecan, even black walnut and other less used woods today
are still classics. <o:p></o:p></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">A friend who used to,
every so often, get a blonde beater from a school or church, would redo
them in ebony simply because no one wanted blonde pianos. Stripping a
blonde piano to the point where it will accept a decent stain is usually
more trouble than it is worth because they have so much filler in them.
He would use bondo to fill the nicks and gouges, coat it with
a primer then several coats of black lacquer and 3 or 4 coats of
clearcoat. <o:p></o:p></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><BR clear=all>Mike<BR>--
<BR>The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your
sources.<BR>Michael Magness<BR>Magness Piano
Service<BR>608-786-4404<BR><A
href="http://www.ifixpianos.com/">www.IFixPianos.com</A><BR>email <A
href="mailto:mike@ifixpianos.com">mike@ifixpianos.com</A>
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