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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial id="role_document"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Generally, you don&#8217;t
have that much room to play around with these.&nbsp; If you are tuning them
then you need to hit some whole number relationship.&nbsp; If not, then the
farther back you can push them (toward the hitch pins) the better, keeping in
mind that the bearing will change depending on where they end up.&nbsp; Tuning aside,
I find that Steinways usually don&#8217;t have a long enough backscale.&nbsp;
The shorter the backscale, the lighter the bearing needs to be and sometimes
those two requirements can be at odds, especially when a compression style
board is asking for more bearing to get things stiff enough which ends up just tying
down the bridge because of the short backscale and around and around.&nbsp; Choose
your poison.&nbsp; &nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'>David Love<br>
davidlovepianos@comcast.net<br>
www.davidlovepianos.com</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>David Ilvedson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 03, 2008
8:59 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> pianotech@ptg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: duplex position</span></font></p>

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font-family:Arial;color:black'>So half the speaking length...<br>
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David Ilvedson, RPT<br>
Pacifica, CA 94044</span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Original
message<br>
From: Erwinspiano@aol.com<br>
To: pianotech@ptg.org<br>
Received: 1/3/2008 2:30:47 AM<br>
Subject: Re: duplex position<br>
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Hi Frank</span></font></p>

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Although you are correct about this for many pianos, the Steinway B's rear
duplex string length doesn't follow this. it's an octave higher</span></font></p>

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Dale</span></font></p>

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et al,<br>
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I cannot speak to the specific make, model, and era of your piano, but typical
of pianos with this type of duplexer,<em><b><i><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'> the distance from the back bridge
pin to the duplexer at note 88 is equal to the speaking length.</span></font></i></b></em>&nbsp;
&nbsp; One can go a step further, and after stringing, nudge the duplexer in or
out, to &quot;tune&quot; the duplex length to sound in unison with the speaking
length at note 88.&nbsp; Whether one believes that &quot;tuning&quot; the
duplexer is effective, it was probably the design intent, if you find that the
original position of the duplexer suggests this relationship between the duplex
length and the speaking length.</span></font></p>

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