<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16587" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Not uncommon to see stage pianos with the padded cover sandwiched under the lid flap.  I believe this is a common cause of loose screws on the lid hinge.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If the hinge screws were longer and deeper into the lid, it might result in worse damage.  Short screws that pull out easily may be a way of limiting damage.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now that it's been mentioned, I can hear a nice improvement in sound when the lid is up with the front down, like a harpsichord.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We'd better be quiet about this!  There are also players who prefer the sound with the fallboard removed.  Don't tell!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed Sutton</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pianotech@a440piano.net href="mailto:pianotech@a440piano.net">William R. Monroe</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dnereson@4dv.net href="mailto:dnereson@4dv.net">David Nereson</A> ; <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:41 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Front lid extended during performance</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>I also disagree with this, I think there are many fine grands with sadly underengineered front lid hardware.  For the life of me I've never understood why manufacturers can't bring it upon themselves to use larger diameter and length screws for front top-lids of grands, and fallboard/music desk hinges on verticals.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>However, this shortcoming doesn't mean the piano is trash IMO.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>William R. Monroe</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><BR>If the hinges can't take this stress, the piano is trash. It's <BR>a non event, or an indication of a need to upgrade.</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow">    I don't agree with this at all.  I've seen Steinways and Mason & Hamlins in schools, where the hinge screws have pulled loose because of students and teachers ignorant of the proper way to open a grand lid.  And those aren't trash pianos.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow">    --David Nereson, RPT</FONT><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>