<div> I hate the push pins as well.  I don't like banging on a customers piano, and I'll bet the customer doesn't like it either.   I wish those hex head screws had a deeper head on them.  They would stay in the socket better then - and how about a phillips head instead of a straight slot, Dampchaser??   All suggestions I made years ago, but have fallen on deaf ears.  And while were at it, would it be cheaper for us and more profitable for you to make the system in China?   Customers balk at a $90.00 HD in Florida due to the cost.  Bob. </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> -----Original Message----- From: Marcel Carey <mcpianos@hotmail.com> To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 9:57 am Subject: RE: Chinese made Yamaha P22s - update <div id="AOLMsgPart_0_d4754941-2263-4ca3-a6a9-e1aa3dd42dae" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt> Conrad, I never use the push pins to hold the dehumidifier. I find it MUCH easier to use screws and a cordless drill. I use robertson screws with small heads so the rod is held very efficiently. I always hated the push pins AND screws supplied with dampp chaser systems. I just love robertson screws for dampp chaser installs. Marcel Carey, RPT Sherbrooke, QC -- > > I find that they are NOT Dampp-Chaser friendly. > > You CANNOT push the dehumidifier rod holding (push)-pins into the side > of the case. You cannot HAMMER the pins into the case. (Bending or > breaking the pins are the only possible results with those methods.) You > must pre-drill the holes. (I happened to have a #57 bit which seemed to > work OK) > > Why? Because the core of the panels is no longer wood. It is a small > amount of fiber holding a large amount of glue together. (Did Yamaha buy > Kimball methods?) > > OK, OK, so they've gone to a heavier piano and I've dealt with it, but > after I'd finished the install (I thought) and went to put the lower > panel back on, I found that there is not enough clearance for the fill > tube between the panel and the bottom of the keybed. Some carving of the > underside of the keybed will be necessary to give it room. > > Happy Monday... ;-{ > > -- > Conrad Hoffsommer, RPT - Keyboard Technician > Luther College, 700 College Dr., Decorah, Iowa 52101-1045 > 1-(563)-387-1204 // Fax 1-(563)-387-1076 _________________________________________________________________ </tt></pre> </div>  <div class="AOLPromoFooter"> <hr style="margin-top:10px;" /> More new features than ever. Check out the new <a href="http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003" target="_blank">AOL Mail</a>! </div>