Wim Lot's of stores will trade straight across, but the piano won't be better...could even be worse!  What I meant by pick out something better is that perhaps she can afford a bit more and didn't know what she was getting. I've worked with many stores in my career and one in Seattle even said they would give the same price she paid even years later if she moves up to something better! Then the store makes another sale and also gets to sell the old one again.  I agree that CA or epoxy can fix lots of woes, but we don't know if the bridge is rotten or not. That's all I was trying to say. pw <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td width=40%>Willem Blees <wimblees@aol.com> Sent by: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org 01/22/2008 11:55 AM <table border> <tr valign=top> <td bgcolor=white> <div align=center>Please respond to Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org></div></table> <td width=59%> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>To</div> <td>pianotech@ptg.org <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>cc</div> <td> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>Subject</div> <td>Re: Dead Bass Strings</table> <table> <tr valign=top> <td> <td></table> </table> Paul   The dealership is not going to let her pick out another piano for the same price. If anything, they will make her pay for the moves, but they will be happy to have her pick out a more expensive piano, which she might be able to afford. I wouldn't be too harsh on a Wulry spinet. Yes, they weren't the greatest instrument ever built, but for the price, they're not bad.   Since she's already paid for the new bass strings, Joe's recommendation to put CA glue in the hole, and then insert the pins is probably the best way to anchor the pins. Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT Piano Tuner/Technician Honolulu, HI Author of The Business of Piano Tuning available from Potter Press www.pianotuning.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul T Williams <pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu> To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 7:15 am Subject: Re: Dead Bass Strings Unless the store is willing to pay for the repair,  I'd tell the customer to trade it in for something better. Help him look at what else the store has to offer.  Anyway, you're in for a big repair.  Epoxy may help... or the bridge could just be shot. Were there lots of big splits down the bridge?  How was the treble bridge?  How old is the piano?  Wurlitzer spinets aren't worth much and a bic lighter may help the best! <G> Paul <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td width=64%>"Steven J. Hopp" <<a href=mailto:hoppsmusic@hotmail.com>hoppsmusic@hotmail.com</a>> Sent by: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> 01/22/2008 09:48 AM <table> <tr valign=top> <td bgcolor=white> <div align=center>Please respond to Pianotech List <<a href=mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</a>></div></table> <td width=35%> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td width=26%> <div align=right>To</div> <td width=73%><<a href=mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</a>> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>cc</div> <td> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>Subject</div> <td>Dead Bass Strings</table> <table> <tr valign=top> <td> <td></table> </table> Hello again,   I recently went to do a tuning on a Wurlitzer spinet.  Both copper wound bass string at the break were "thuddy".  No sustain to the sound.  The lower strings were fine.  I decided to try changing the string to see if it would be better.  No dice.  Upon removal of the string however, I found the bass bridge pins to be so loose I could remove them with my fingers.  What is the best repair for this?  The client just purchased this "used" piano from a dealer who is willing to trade back the piano and let them choose something else.   Thanks for the help!   Steven <hr>More new features than ever. Check out the new <a href="http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003" target=_blank>AOL Mail</a>!