Yes, LaRoy is a great guy!  He did a seminar in Seattle years ago where he gave me the 37 step book.  I reference it every once in a while to check myself.  Another tech (unfortunately, I don't remember who) told me to think of regulating, tuning, restringing, etc as a spiral....continually circling in to "perfection".  He called it a circle of refinement. Paul <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td width=40%>"Barbara Richmond" <piano57@insightbb.com> Sent by: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org 01/29/2008 08:47 PM <table border> <tr valign=top> <td bgcolor=white> <div align=center>Please respond to Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org></div></table> <td width=59%> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>To</div> <td><pianotuner@embarqmail.com>, "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>cc</div> <td> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>Subject</div> <td>Re: 37 steps</table> <table> <tr valign=top> <td> <td></table> </table> I've been to the Little Red School House (1986).  They taught regulating in cycles.  Just listing these "steps" doesn't tell you the whole story.  Besides tightening the screws, I was taught <there> that the three things you need before you start to regulate in earnest is blow distance, some drop and and the repetition springs need enough strength to make the hammers rise when released slowly out of check.  Sometimes it takes a little work to get to that point!  LaRoy Edwards is soft spoken, but has a wonderful sense of humor.  The information he's shared (and I was willing to listen to) is largely why I've been a successful technician.   Barbara Richmond, RPT near Peoria, Illinois ----- Original Message ----- From: <a href=mailto:pianotuner@embarqmail.com>Alan Barnard</a> To: <a href=mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</a> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 7:48 PM Subject: Re: 37 steps I concur. Actually, Potter (The Randy Potter School of Witchcraft and Piano Technology) does nicely stress the importance of, how shall we say, cyclical adjustments, i.e., going back to previous steps at certain points. Don Mannino, Roger Jolly (where's he been lately?), and others also stress this in their classes. Alan Barnard Salem, MO <hr>Original message From: "David Andersen"   To: l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net, "Pianotech List"   Received: 1/29/2008 4:45:01 PM Subject: Re: 37 steps On Jan 29, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Leslie Bartlett wrote:  It's not really so different than Potter or Reblitz. I don't know about Potter or Reblitz, but if you regulate according to the Yamaha 37 steps you'll have some problems. Spring strength affects almost every other regulation point; if you don't do it very precisely first, and then refine it later on, thing will change, and not for the better; wrong spring strength (too little or too much) will blur and confuse the feeling of the other precise regulation protocols. Blow distance, some aftertouch, then spring strength. Foist and fawmost, kiddies. Balance is the key. xoDA