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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My posting was a request for info., to try and get
me thru an urgent time, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and am enjoying the comments. I did call the
manufaturer, and got some</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>info. Also , called a fellow Canadian
who is the rep. for that tuner . He was</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>also quite helpful. ( great guys, all ).
Much appreciate all the guys who</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>tried to help. Will be using some of the
info., to try and solve my problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Will post again if I'm successful. Bye the
way, it's not "THAT" cold here .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We swim in lake Winnipeg. Of course , that's in the
summer. Now , some</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>of us ice fish. ( not I ) I'm waiting for the golf
season. Same as half the continent.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Carl / Winnipeg.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=formsma@gmail.com href="mailto:formsma@gmail.com">John Formsma</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 01, 2008 9:45
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Accu-tuner</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Feb 1, 2008 3:23 PM, <<A
href="mailto:A440A@aol.com">A440A@aol.com</A>> wrote:<BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">John
writes:<BR><< Oh, that's so outre´ these days. I'd recommend the
AuraTuner 1.0. No<BR><BR>batteries to recharge, no updates to
download. No equipment to replace. It<BR><BR>automatically updates on
site as new information is processed. >><BR><BR>Hmm, Ok,<BR>1.
Can it raise the pitch and fine tune to a different temperament in 1
1/4<BR>hours? Right in the middle of a bad cold, at the end of a long
week, while<BR>there is a lot of noise in the background?<BR>2. Can it
guarantee accuracy to within 1 cent on 10 successive tunings,<BR>(like in a
studio where they are overdubbing 3 month old tracks?)<BR>3. Can it
remember, to within .1 cent, the last tuning; so that one
can<BR>cumulatively refine one's tuning?<BR><BR>
Anybody that thinks they can provide a superior tuning with
their<BR>ears, against my tuning with my ears AND my machine will have to
prove that<BR>that is so!<BR>Regards,<BR>Ed Foote RPT</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>Aw, Ed ... I was just trying to start something. :-) </DIV>
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<DIV>Sure, if your criteria are as you state above, an ETD would definitely be
handy. I would use a device to record my aural tunings for repeat work.
If there was a program that would only record pitches, that would be
great for me. I wouldn't want to spend many $XXXX.00 on it -- it's not worth
that to me for what I do. Maybe it is for others, and that's certainly
fine.</DIV>
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<DIV>I think we piano techs are in danger of losing valuable skills by relying
on machines. Just like we are in danger of relying on "37-steps" rather
than understanding the process. And I think we should be given more
respect than to be expected to tune a piano in a noisy environment. You
wouldn't ask a portrait artist to do his work in the rain. Likewise, we
should have an environment that is conducive to our work.<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Yes, I can do a good job with a pitch raise and tuning in 1.25 hours.
I like to have more time than that usually. But it can be done if
need be. I can actually do it in 1 hour, but that's at top speed, and
when everything works perfectly. Which seldom happens.</DIV>
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<DIV>The main intent of my post, though, was just a friendly reminder that we
sometimes make it harder on ourselves by trying to make it easier on
ourselves. We get all this high-falutin' equipment, then get dependent
on it. Then gripe about how it doesn't do well on certain pianos.
And how we <SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">know</SPAN> we can do better than the machine,
etc. (By proving it with <SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">aural</SPAN> tests, incidentally.) And we
freak out when it suddenly won't turn on, and we have to slug through with a
dull ear. All the while our aural skills are being minimized. At
least that was my experience. </DIV>
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<DIV>Whereas we could just learn what makes a tuning good, relax, and get it
done. (I'm not saying you can't do that, either, Ed. I'm sure you
can. Just speaking generally.) I think I'm a better tuner without
the ETD. Do I have hard days? Yeah, the first piano today was one
of 'em. Did I want to go buy an ETD? Nah, just learned a bit more
about the piano and myself. </DIV>
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<DIV>Yes, I chose a road with a more difficult mountain at the beginning of
the journey. But I like the view now, and the road isn't so steep
anymore.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>-- <BR>JF<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>