<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 2, 2008 8:59 AM, Porritt, David <<a href="mailto:dporritt@mail.smu.edu">dporritt@mail.smu.edu</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<p><span style="color:#1F497D">To me, what makes it stand up and
provoke ire is the implied arrogance – which I'm sure you don't
intend.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Correct. My intent is to show that all of us can, if we desire, tune as well or better than an ETD if we will<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"> practice </span>perfection. And to show that we are in <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">some</span> danger of losing some of our abilities when we rely <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">primarily</span> on an ETD. And, that verifying a tuning must be done with <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">aural</span> tests. Which if we don't know said tests, we can't verify <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">what</span> is preferable and <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">why</span>. And if we can't say <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">why</span>, then we end up being <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">mostly</span> reliant on the ETD.</div>
<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>My experience with the Verituner100 is that I let it do all my thinking for me. And when I woke up from that 1.5 year-long tryst, I found that I had lost my aural confidence. Maybe somewhat like a substance abuser, I found that I was craving that machine's presence. I hope that ETD users will have a different experience than mine. But I don't want to experience again that numbing inner fear after the ETD was gone.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p><span style="color:#1F497D"> The unspoken "I can do better work with my ear than you can
do with your fancy, schmancy ETD" is there, intended or not. </span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I'll leave that argument to others. What I can say from <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">my</span></span> experience with the SAT and Verituner100 is that my aural tunings have a sort of shine and sparkle to them that the ETDs did not consistently achieve. I can't give quantitative details about that now, but a friend of mine and I are planning to get together and compare my aural tuning with the RCT. Maybe after that, we will have some hard numbers to talk about rather than going on inner feelings produced by rather subjective brain stimuli.</div>
<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#1F497D"> There is an art to what we do
but in reality it is also a job. I have to go in this evening to tune for
a concert of a world class cellist and world class pianist. If 3 weeks
from now they want to do a little editing of the recording I can duplicate the
exact (note-for-note) tuning I'll do tonight. That way my "job"
will work with their "art" for the finished product. </span></p></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><div>Yeah, if that's a need, then that's what you gotta do. Or just not worry about those potential 0.2 cent differences. <g> Let's get real, though. Can we perfectly duplicate the lights and the temperature in the room, which will have more effect on a tuning than a 0.2 cents difference here and there? And, remember, I said previously that I would use a device that could record my aural tunings as an aid to duplicating exactly what was there before.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#1F497D"> To each his own art and job success.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Amen to that! :-)</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder">
</div><div>And do remember, all, that this is my <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">friendly</span> discussion. I recently reminded a few of my chapter colleagues that today's ETDs are quite capable of producing a fine tuning. One of my friends had the mindset that aural tuning is "just the <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">professional</span> way." I don't go that far, and remind him of that when appropriate.</div>
<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>--</div><div>JF</div></div>