<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1555" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> If they play guitar or any stringed instrument, they should be able to make the connection.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=paul@bruesch.net href="mailto:paul@bruesch.net">paul bruesch</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:01 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: 37 steps---delayed response</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Well, if you tune a piano that's 50c flat, you don't just "follow the steps" of bringing the piano "to pitch." While it might not make sense to a lay person (e.g. a piano owner/player) that you need to bring it over pitch to have it wind up at/near pitch, it's a well-known fact to piano techs (and one that is quite difficult for me to try to explain to those lay owners.) Likewise in regulation, if (a) affects (b) affects (c) affects (a), then any worthwhile tech who is regulating a piano will go back and check/adjust (a) after doing (c). That's what the exams are all about, isn't it?? Making sure someone doesn't just learn a rote HOW method?? Rather that we learn the WHYs as well.<BR><BR>Paul Bruesch<BR>Stillwater, MN<BR><BR> <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Feb 7, 2008 2:43 PM, Israel Stein <<A href="mailto:custos3@comcast.net">custos3@comcast.net</A>> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"> <DIV>At 07:44 AM 2/7/2008, you wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><FONT size=2>Mike,<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Have you been to LRS?  The 37 steps instructs to go back to..., check this, etc.  Just like someone said earlier...<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Barbara Richmond, RPT<BR>near Peoria, Illinois</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Then why title it and present it as if it were a linear sequence? I think Yamaha is sending a mixed message here that is responsible for an awful lot of confusion and misunderstanding among piano technicians. You call something "37 steps" and an awful lot of people are going to think that you do the steps - and then you are finished. And I see a lot of evidence that this is actually happening. <BR><BR>Israel Stein <BR><BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DL> <DD> <DIV class=Ih2E3d>I guess that's why I prefer Kawai's circle of refinement to Yamaha's 37 steps, in the circle of refinement you are seeking to regulate/adjust/refine as needed to bring the action to the point of functioning properly rather than  following a list of steps some of which may seem/be superfluous. In the circle of refinement it is not unheard of to repeat/redo and adjustment after performing some of the other adjustments, it's considered another step on the road to refinement.<BR></DIV> <DD><BR>  <DD>Mike<BR><BR> <DD>-- <BR> <DD>Age is an issue of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter.<BR> <DD>Michael Magness<BR> <DD>Magness Piano Service<BR> <DD>608-786-4404<BR> <DD><A href="http://www.IFixPianos.com" target=_blank>www.IFixPianos.com</A><BR> <DD>email <A href="mailto:mike@ifixpianos.com" target=_blank>mike@ifixpianos.com</A> <BR></DD></DL></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>