<html> <body> Allan, Did you bring enough to share?... Cheers! Horace At 11:03 PM 2/11/2008, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Very good referral, but the math stickler in me must point out that the transverse pin is described in the original article as being tangentially placed and this is not correct. If it were a tangent, it would be wholly (wholely? wooley? holy?) outside the dowel and only touching it in one little itty-bitty (yes, those are the correct scientific terms) spot. The pin actually forms a secant--the first dictionary definition of which is "a straight line intersecting a curve at two or more points", although it may be said, ha ha, that when the aforementioned curve is, in fact, any arc part (not unlike the Kalahari termite-eating aard vark or the common expression in the poorer neighborhoods of Hellstinky, to wit, "digging this ditch makes me tired, Ollie, it shur is ard vark") but I digress, as is my want (or need) and, at the risk of repeating myself in any sort of repetitious, redundant, reiterative, echoing sort of over and over again way, <insert breath here> I restate once or twice more that when the afiveorsixmentioned curve is any arc part of a circle, there can be neither a number greater than nor fewer than exactly two (2) intersections, more or less. This is sort of true even if one of the said common loci (a rare bird, indeed), hereinafter called the "intersection" has a posted stop sine and the other has a lightly tan gent waving his little bobby baton at your recalcitrant, denser-than-a-neutron-star noggin and requesting that you sine the summons he hands you and that your spouse must, likewise (or dislikewise, more likely; or perhaps more dislikely, or even less likely, "unlikely") cosine the dang thing, for heaven's sake so you can get on with your pitiful life--all for the patently egregious crime of "failing to yield." Failing to yield, that is, the appropriate and traditional under-the-table remuneration into the greasy outstretched palm of said upright, uptight, upstanding (and downright lying) constable, or con-unstable, as it were (and still am).Glad I was able to enlighten you all and straighten this hole thing out and I sincerely apologize for doing so. I suggest you not bother reading this message at all, or have someone read it to you, perhaps in German, it'll make a lot more sense maybe. Or have them read it in Germany, while you stay here in the good old "You-Us of Eh?" soaking your gluttonous maximum in a pink bubbly bath set up in your rump room. Won't that be jolly fun, eh what?Baa Hamburg! (Ewe said it.) Alan BarnardTrickonometry Professor in Salem, MOAnd the frightening thing is, he is stone cold sober and considered mildly sane by some very questionable folks.----- Original message ----------------------------------------From: "Scott Jackson"  To: "Pianotech List"  Received: 2/11/2008 11:45:33 PMSubject: Re: hitch pin loop tool>hitch pin loop toolThere was a message from Greg Newell way back in 2003. It>can be found at:>https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/26/77/a6/75/attachment.htm>And i believe the attached file is a picture of it, but don't ask me where i>found it, cause i can't find it now!>Scott Jackson>----- Original Message ----- >From: David Ilvedson>To: caut@ptg.org ; pianotech@ptg.org>Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:34 AM>Subject: hitch pin loop tool>I have always duplicated hitchpin loops on single strings with my round>needle nose and a vice-grip. It seems to me there was a simple tool using a>dowel and a screw? I'm talking about field work here.>David Ilvedson, RPT>Pacifica, CA 94044>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 1/14/2008 5:39 >PM </blockquote></body> </html>