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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As some may recall... I did rebuild a 1890's Knabe
upright. Yes, the plate could only come out after removing the bass area
of the block. The flange was too tight untill that was done. The SB
( not SOB) litterally fell apart when the plate came out. Installed new SB
and bass block. I cannot trust old glue joints when it is put into full
time service. Reamed the rest of the block to accommodate 2/0 X
21/4 pins. (Originals were #1X 2"). With mostly new action parts and new
hammers it sounds and plays great. I still have the piano and will give it
away soon to Project Liberty Ship..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Carlos Ralon, RPT</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 15, 2008 10:16
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: soundboard on my 1890's
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1890 Knabe upright, ummm, might have been too
difficult to remove the plate during the restring ( not rebuild ) which is why
the cracks were not shimmed. The cabinet was built around the case on a lot of
those. The low tenor is often a problem, grain run out on the bridge there is
common (ESPECIALLY on Knabes) and I've seen bridge roll and a loss of bearing
in that area. It's not really a recording piano, more money than it's worth to
do right. Might have to live with it, Daniel.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fenton</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 15, 2008 5:22
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: soundboard on my 1890's
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<DIV><BR></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Daniel,</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>It sounds as though the "rebuild" did not include a
new soundboard? Anyway, if you like the sound and it's not buzzing,
just let it be. No, you can't shim from underneath, you would need to
de-string remove the plate and shim the cracks. A lot of work, especially
for an upright. Then again, if it starts to buzz, then off to work you
go if you think it's worth it!</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>My 2 cents</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Paul</FONT>
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size=3>hey techs</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>i've
got a rebuilt (rebuilt 2 or 3 years ago) 1890's Knabe upright. nice warm,
woody sound, and it's already been used in a few recordings. i'd like to
have it sound nice for many more years. i do have one concern. i've noticed
a crack or two in the soundboard, and it bums me out to have a rebuilt,
beautifully sounding piano with a crack in the soundboard. </FONT><BR><FONT
size=3>now i did a few shims at nbss on grands we were rebuilding, but never
any uprights... and in the following post </FONT><A
href="https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/2006-January/184497.html"><FONT
color=blue
size=3><U>https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/2006-January/184497.html</U></FONT></A><FONT
size=3>, David Ilvedson says you can't shim from behind. </FONT><BR><FONT
size=3>so my question is can <I>anything</I> be done to fix the
cracks?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>as always,
any help is greatly appreciated.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT>
<BR><FONT size=3>thanks</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT
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