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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Actually, I didn’t want to make
this confrontational. Copy means copy. Writing down the information,
photocopying the information (which was the problem in this case), copying by
whatever means you can think of. Using the information is not illegal, that’s
why it’s there. Making any copy of copyrighted work is illegal. There are “fair
use” exceptions that are pretty explicit and there’s a ton of information on
the web about fair use. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>dp<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>____________________</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>David M. Porritt, RPT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu">dporritt@smu.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Willem
Blees<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 29, 2008 2:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> question for for Israel,was Re: unethical and illegal behavior
on the part of some<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dave<br>
<br>
I want to keep this confrontational. <br>
<br>
What is the legal definition of "copy the information?"
Does sending information (dates found in the PPA), over the Internet constitute
copying of information? <br>
<br>
Israel, you seem to have a good handle about legal issues. Can you answer this?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Wim<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Porritt, David <dporritt@mail.smu.edu><br>
To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org><br>
Sent: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 4:55 am<br>
Subject: RE: unethical and illegal behavior on the part of some<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>There’s really nothing to
discuss here. The owner of a “copyright” is the only one who has the
“right” to “copy” the material. You can use the information, you can read
from it, you can make decisions on the information but you CAN NOT copy
it. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The end.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>David M. Porritt, RPT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a
href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Willem Blees<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: unethical and illegal behavior on the part of some</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Dave<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I said that scanning all the information is illegal.
But what we're doing is passing on information to customers, the same as if you
took information from my book to help you sell a rebuild. That's what my
book is for. If we are not allowed to use the information in the
book, why buy it? <br>
<br>
Wim<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Porritt, David <<a href="mailto:dporritt@mail.smu.edu">dporritt@mail.smu.edu</a>><br>
To: Pianotech List <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>><br>
Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 2:28 pm<br>
Subject: RE: unethical and illegal behavior on the part of some<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You win! Is there a prize
for the most outrageous idea? Wim, it’s the law!! It’s US law,
international law and even in effect in Hawaii! You’ve published a
book. Do you want people to scan it and send it everywhere? Use
your hat rack!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>David M. Porritt, RPT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu">dporritt@smu.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a
href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Willem Blees<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: unethical and illegal behavior on the part of some</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>As you know the Pierce Piano Atlas is a world famous
publication. It is the subject of registrations and copyrights obtained
in the United States and throughout the world. No part of the Pierce Piano
Atlas may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any
form or by any means -- electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or
otherwise -- without written permission of the publisher. We
vigorously defend our valuable copyrights, and take instances of infringement
with the utmost seriousness.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style='color:red'>Does this mean if a customer asks me what year her piano
was made, I am not allowed to give her that information, and
include some info about the piano, without first asking Larry?<br>
<br>
I've got an idea. Why don't all of us call his office every time we want to
share information with one of our customers. Maybe a hundred phone calls a day
will let him ease off a little. <br>
<br>
Now, I agree that an electronically produced list of all the manufacturers
and serial numbers is illegal. But just one name and number? Give me a break.<br>
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Wim</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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