<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'> <div class=Section1> A little additional perspective: Nobody was trying to rip off PPA. Alan owns at least one copy as do most members of the list. Alan’s intent certainly was not to provide information so no one would have to purchase the book. He was only trying to be helpful and didn’t quite think through what he was doing, for which he has already apologized. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> The fact is, PPA is not publishing the information in an electronic form, something that would be very beneficial and something that apparently others want. Personally I see nothing immoral or unethical in Alan’s actions of copying the information for his own use to an electronic form. He already purchased it, he is only transferring it into a more usable format, a format that the publisher refuses to provide. Those who control the big guns and prisons may decree it to be “illegal” at some point. But they don’t determine morality for me. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> As far as the premise that distributing information electronically for “free” detracts from sales and royalties, the whole Napster episode seems to demonstrate otherwise. At the height of all the music file sharing where people were getting music for free the sales of music went through the roof. While it is true that some utilized Napster to “rip off” the music companies and get all their music for free, many more simply used it to preview music before going out to purchase their own copies. The result was more $$$ in the pockets of the music industry. They only shot themselves in the foot by shutting Napster down. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Dean<o:p></o:p> <u1:PERSONNAME u2:st="on">Dean May</u1:PERSONNAME>             cell 812.239.3359 <o:p></o:p> PianoRebuilders.com   812.235.5272 <o:p></o:p> <u1:PLACE u2:st="on"><u1:CITY u2:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><u3:place u4:st="on"><u3:City u4:st="on">Terre Haute</st1:City></u3:place></u1:CITY></u3:City> <u1:STATE u2:st="on"><st1:State u5:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">IN</st1:State></u1:STATE></st1:State>  <u1:POSTALCODE u2:st="on"><st1:PostalCode u6:st="on"><st1:PostalCode w:st="on">47802</st1:PostalCode></u1:POSTALCODE></st1:PostalCode></st1:place></u1:PLACE><o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Andersen Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 7:57 PM To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:PersonName> Subject: Re: unethical and illegal behavior on the part of some <o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> You should look at the threads before you stick your neck out, <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region>. This is what pissed everybody off:<o:p></o:p> <div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> "Notice to list and Alan Forsyth...<o:p></o:p> <div> Publishing the contents of a copyrighted book is both illegal and unethical. Participating in the benefits of this revelation of material and subsequent copying of it puts all parties at risk. Be warned. The publisher Larry Ashley is now in pursuit of this highly unprofessional, disgusting practice so many of you seem to take lightly. I challenge the PTG members in charge of this list to forthwith make statements and effect practices to stop this behavior now and prevent the inevitable law suit.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> For shame on this body of miscreants.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Joseph Alkana RPT<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> That is what I call highly inflammatory and disrespectful in a collegial atmosphere...agree or no?<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> David Andersen<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> P.S. then the "glee" from Mr. Alkana when we got "busted..." ya gonna let that pass, too? Mm mm mm.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> <div> On Feb 29, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Israel Stein wrote:<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p></o:p> At 11:00 AM 2/29/2008, Dean May wrote: <o:p></o:p> Hey if you get a free pass for calling people unethical and want to call that civil discussion, I guess that works. <o:p></o:p> Nobody called anybody else unethical. A suggestion was made that some behavior "may be" unethical. That is called a civil discussion. Anything else is a fruit of your imagination. <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region> Stein <o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html>