<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <title>Re: Side lifting tops on vertical pianos</title> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"/> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"/> <style> v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } </style> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <style>  </style> </head> <body lang="EN-US" vlink="#0000ff" link="#0000ff" bgcolor="#ffffff"> <div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt">Re: Baldwins</span></font></div> <div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt"> </span></font></div> <div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt">I don't know about opening them up, but their upright fallboard designs were hideous--always in the way, a pain to remove and replace. There are black holes in deep space that have less suction! Collectively, I wonder how many jillions of hours techs have wasted over the years, fooling with the durn things.<br/><br/>Alan Barnard<br/>Salem, MO<br/><br/></span></font></div> <div style="padding-right: 5px; padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 5px; border-left: #000000 3px solid; padding-top: 5px" align="left"> <hr/>Original message<br/>From: "Fenton Murray" <fmurray@cruzio.com> </fmurray@cruzio.com><br/>To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org> </pianotech@ptg.org><br/>Received: 3/11/2008 8:24:08 AM<br/>Subject: Re: Side lifting tops on vertical pianos<br/><br/> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2">Don't take it personal, Elwood. I threw a fit once when I was young trying to get an Acrosonic fall back on, that's all. I'm OK now, just needed to get that out.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Fenton</font></div> <blockquote dir="ltr" style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #000000 2px solid; margin-right: 0px"> <div style="font: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="edoss@utm.edu" href="mailto:edoss@utm.edu">Elwood Doss</a> </div> <div style="font: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="pianotech@ptg.org" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</a> </div> <div style="font: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:47 AM</div> <div style="font: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> RE: Side lifting tops on vertical pianos</div> <div><br/></div> <div class="Section1"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial">Oh, c’mon, leave Baldwin alone.  I’ve yet to see a Baldwin upright that was difficult to open up.  The old Hamiltons were a piece of cake and I really like that design.  Wish they hadn’t changed it.  I’ve seen some others that were a bear to get into...especially the ones with the screws and “L” brackets where the screws are difficult to see unless the lighting is extremely bright.  And the side lifting tops are a pain for sure.  In regard to opening up uprights, Baldwin’s been pretty kind to us.</span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="#000080" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; 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font-family: Arial">Well, we all know Baldwin likes to make us work, I think someone told them we get paid by the hour so please do what ever you can to make your pianos hard to take apart, as in Acrosonic falls and on and on. Although the Hamilton front kind of works, if you don't destroy the action closing it. But then, that's even more work. Maybe they are trying to help us.</span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial">Fenton</span></font></div> </div> <blockquote style="border-right: medium none; padding-right: 0in; border-top: medium none; padding-left: 4pt; padding-bottom: 0in; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; border-left: black 1.5pt solid; padding-top: 0in; border-bottom: medium none"> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial">----- Original Message ----- </span></font></div> </div> <div style="font-color: black"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="background: #e4e4e4"><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial">From:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial"> <a title="richard.ucci@att.net" href="mailto:richard.ucci@att.net">richard.ucci@att.net</a> </span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial">To:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial"> <a title="pianotech@ptg.org" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</a> </span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial">Sent:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial"> Monday, March 10, 2008 6:05 PM</span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial">Subject:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial"> Re: Side lifting tops on vertical pianos</span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt"> </span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt">I have the most problems with the Baldwin consoles that have the two hinges but the pins are part of the hinge and you have to line up both just right or it won't go back together. I usually have to have the client hold the right end while I position the pins and push in. Very tough for one man to do.</span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt">RU/UP</span></font></div> </div> <blockquote style="border-right: medium none; padding-right: 0in; border-top: medium none; margin-top: 5pt; padding-left: 4pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; padding-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 3.75pt; border-left: #1010ff 1.5pt solid; padding-top: 0in; border-bottom: medium none"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt">-------------- Original message from "John Formsma" <formsma@gmail.com>: -------------- </span></font></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt">On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Willem Blees <<a href="mailto:wimblees@aol.com">wimblees@aol.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt"><br/>Pulling the pin out is the easy part. Putting it back in is what creates the problem. The hinges have to be lined up perfectly. If they are not, it is easy to bend the long hinge pin as you try to push it back in. Bruce's idea is fantastic. I hope it makes it into the Journal's Tips sections.  </span></font></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt"><br clear="all"/></span></font></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt">It's not usually hard for me.  Pushing it back in is done with one end in a small Vise Grip pliers.  Yes, the hinges must be lined up.  But, when you're "jiggling" them slightly while pushing in the pin, it works.</span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt"><br/>-- <br/>JF</span></font></div> </div> </blockquote> </blockquote> </div> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html>