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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Willem I think from memory I rounded the end of the pin with a
file and applied a small amount of grease and working with locking pliers gripped
just past the length of the first section. By wriggling it around once it goes
though the first section it was plain sailing. The problem is a bit like
locating lid hinge pins on a grand.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Robin <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Willem Blees<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 11 March 2008 10:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Side lifting tops on vertical pianos<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Robin<br>
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Pulling the pin out is the easy part. Putting it back in is what creates the
problem. The hinges have to be lined up perfectly. If they are not, it is easy
to bend the long hinge pin as you try to push it back in. Bruce's idea is
fantastic. I hope it makes it into the Journal's Tips sections. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT<br>
Piano Tuner/Technician<br>
Honolulu, HI<br>
Author of <br>
The Business of Piano Tuning<br>
available from Potter Press<br>
www.pianotuning.com<o:p></o:p></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Robin Stevens <pianobee@bigpond.com><br>
To: 'Pianotech List' <pianotech@ptg.org><br>
Sent: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:33 pm<br>
Subject: RE: Side lifting tops on vertical pianos<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I would say that by the time you have gone out to your car and
returned, you could have pulled that hinge pin out! If the first time it has to
be pulled from the back put it back so that it can be pulled from the front.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Robin </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org"><u><span
style='color:blue'>pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</span></u></a> [<a
href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?"><u><span style='color:blue'>mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</span></u></a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>AlliedPianoCraft<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 11 March 2008 8:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Pianotech List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Side lifting tops on vertical pianos</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Works in the
bass and tenor, but how do you tune the treble?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Al Guecia</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Original Message ----- </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:bdornfeld@earthlink.net"
title="bdornfeld@earthlink.net"><u><span style='color:blue'>Bruce Dornfeld</span></u></a>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title="pianotech@ptg.org"><u><span
style='color:blue'>pianotech</span></u></a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Monday, March 10,
2008 5:53 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Side lifting tops on
vertical pianos</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif","serif"'>I
ran in one just today. Here is a picture of the piano held open with the
sectional steel rods.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif","serif"'>Bruce
Dornfeld, RPT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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href="mailto:bdornfeld@earthlink.net"><u><span style='color:blue'>bdornfeld@earthlink.net</span></u></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif","serif"'>847-498-0379</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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