<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>RE: A remedy for Verdigris</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16608" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hey: Has anyone ever tried shellac. It seals out mold and mildew. Maybe it will work on green gunk too.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gerald McCleskey</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=piano57@insightbb.com href="mailto:piano57@insightbb.com">Barbara Richmond</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotuner@embarqmail.com href="mailto:pianotuner@embarqmail.com">pianotuner@embarqmail.com</A> ; <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 14, 2008 9:24 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: A remedy for Verdigris</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think he means that the center pin would pull the epoxy through the hole--then the hole is left to dry before continuing with bushing and pinning.  Something like the Damaged Bird's Eye Repair contributed by Ed Sutton listed in the Tips, Tools and Techniques column in this month's Journal (page 9), but using thin epoxy to coat the hole (and not trying to build up the bird's eye).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I could be mistaken, though.  :-)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Barbara Richmond, RPT</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>near Peoria, IL</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pianotuner@embarqmail.com href="mailto:pianotuner@embarqmail.com">Alan Barnard</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 14, 2008 8:47 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: A remedy for Verdigris</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV align=left>Interesting. Won't the pin become a rather permanent feature of the whippen? Or, by coated, do you mean with Vasolene or something else the epoxy won't grab onto?</DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV> <DIV align=left>Maybe epoxy isn't the only answer: Aren't there a variety of wood sealers and waterproofing agents that might penetrate and seal the pores and veins in that wood?<BR><BR>Alan Barnard<BR>Salem, MO<BR><BR></DIV> <DIV align=left> <HR> Original message<BR>From: erwinspiano@aol.com<BR>To: pianotech@ptg.org<BR>Received: 3/14/2008 7:45:02 PM<BR>Subject: A remedy for Verdigris<BR><BR> <DIV align=left><WBR> </WBR> Hey all<BR> I know ...I know there is no remedy for verdigris .... except a new parts transplant... but the other day my 83 year old Dad & I were looking a perfectly useable set of vintage Steinway wippens except for the mild case of creeping green crud so, We were lamenting having to toss a beautiful set of original <STRONG><U>Steinway wippens</U></STRONG> in the trash. We started brainstorming how we could solve this given the contamination is in the wood.  Now I know many of us have re-pinned & re- bushed ...put on new flanges etc. & in the end all for nothing as it returns, But with a good set of wippens approaching 1000 bucks the idea has my attention.<BR>  I told my Dad I was thinking about how to cut out the birds eye & then machine a new insert with birds eye & all. My thought was that if the new insert was put in with epoxy that this would act as a verdigris barrier from entering back into the new wood. Then My Pops says "why not just coat the existing birds eye with epoxy & slide a coated pin thru the hole to seal up the exposed inner wood which should prove de a barrier to any further contamination". Then pin on new flanges. <STRONG>I thought the idea had merit.<BR></STRONG>  I mean for a few short hours of pinning & coating an original set of beautifully made & machined  maple wippens could be preserved & re-used at any level of performance required. <BR>  How bout some discussion.<BR>  Dale<BR>  </DIV><FONT style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <DIV class=aol_ad_footer> <HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> </DIV> <DIV class=aol_ad_footer>Supercharge your AIM. Get the <A title=http://download.aim.com/client/aimtoolbar?NCID=aolcmp00300000002586 href="http://download.aim.com/client/aimtoolbar?NCID=aolcmp00300000002586" target=_blank>AIM toolbar</A> for your browser. </DIV></FONT></DIV><WBR> </WBR> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>