<WBR>Sorry, Joe. Misunderstood. I don't know if there is a rule of thumb for adjusting those. What is the problem that you're having that makes you think it might be the spring?<br> <br> <div style="CLEAR: both">Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT<br> Piano Tuner/Technician<br> Honolulu, HI<br> Author of <br> The Business of Piano Tuning<br> available from Potter Press<br> www.pianotuning.com</div> <br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: Joe And Penny Goss <imatunr@srvinet.com><br> To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org><br> Sent: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 1:01 pm<br> Subject: Re: wippen assistance please<br> <br> <div id=AOLMsgPart_2_f20ffd66-f952-4962-808f-c5c3aac259d4> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Wim,</FONT></div> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2>The assist spring at the back of the wippen.</FONT></div> <div>Joe Goss RPT<br> Mother Goose Tools<br> <A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><br> <A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com/" target=_blank>www.mothergoosetools.com</A></div> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=wimblees@aol.com href="mailto:wimblees@aol.com">Willem Blees</A> </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 15, 2008 3:45 PM</div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: wippen assistance please</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Joe</div> <div> </div> <div>The rule of thumb is that after the hammer has checked, the hammer should "rise gently" when the key is released. What is considered "a gentle rise" varies, but I've always felt that a small but significant rise is good. If there is a kick, it's too strong. You should also feel the release on the key. (In actuality, the wippen pushes the key down, but we see it as a the hammer rising. <br> <br> But there are lots of things that effect the spring tension. The most important thing is where the hammer checks. Too high or too low will give you different results. With that comes correct key dip. The other thing that will effect rep spring tension is the spring groove. It needs to be clean but lightly lubricated. <br> <br> How to adjust the springs on various models is another subject. <br> <br> I hope this information helps you.<br> <br> For what it's worth, just yesterday I thought about putting together a technical on this exact subject for one of our chapter meetings. So any additional comments and suggestions will be greatly appreciated. </div> <div style="CLEAR: both"><br> Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT<br> Piano Tuner/Technician<br> Honolulu, HI<br> Author of <br> The Business of Piano Tuning<br> available from Potter Press<br> <A href="http://www.pianotuning.com/" target=_blank>www.pianotuning.com</A></div> <br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: Joe And Penny Goss <<A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A>><br> To: Pianotech <<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>><br> Sent: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:59 am<br> Subject: wippen assistance please<br> <br> <div id=AOLMsgPart_0_c6775bbd-3fe1-4993-a31b-8488f13a5e8d style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"><PRE style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><TT>Hi all, I have never seen on this list the mention of what to look for in setting the wippen assist springs. Any one care to give it a go? Havt A Samick Ihat has a problem that may be related to the spring tension. Joe Goss RPT Mother Goose Tools <A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A> <A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com/" target=_blank>www.mothergoosetools.com</A> </TT></PRE></div> <div class=aol_ad_footer id=u8CA55055749FD3E-2E4-54E><FONT style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> Supercharge your AIM. Get the <A title=http://download.aim.com/client/aimtoolbar?NCID=aolcmp00300000002586 href="http://download.aim.com/client/aimtoolbar?NCID=aolcmp00300000002586" target=_blank>AIM toolbar</A> for your browser.</FONT> </div> </BLOCKQUOTE></div> <div id='u8CA5507417D8B83-4D0-3396' class='aol_ad_footer'><FONT style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">Supercharge your AIM. Get the <A title="http://download.aim.com/client/aimtoolbar?NCID=aolcmp00300000002586" href="http://download.aim.com/client/aimtoolbar?NCID=aolcmp00300000002586" target="_blank">AIM toolbar</A> for your browser.</FONT> </div>