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<div align="left"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><font color="#000000">I would re-iterate the CA option. You can always tell the customer you are working by hour. Explain that many technicians have had good results with CA glue on pianos that might not be worth rebuilding (you have to think carefully about how you word it..;-]) . Let her/him know that their piano needs a pinblock. Don't make their problem yours. A new pinblock and restringing is the best way to deal with their problems, but you have those other two options. CA for a couple of hours of work or Repinning with old strings for quite few more hours of work. The repinning is, of course, a better option on a good quality piano. We still don't know the brand? If you decide to repin, you don't need to remove the dampers. Just move the upstop rail as high as possible and block up the tray. The wire you remove from the old pin will just sit there while you insert another pin. I'm wondering whether you could pound the new pin through the coil into the block? Worth a try...hopefully you would only be going up one size? </font></span></span></div>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><font color="#000000">CA? Remove the action</font></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><font color="#000000">David Ilvedson, RPT<br/>Pacifica, CA 94044<br/><br/></font></span></span></p>
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<hr/>Original message<br/>From: "daniel carlton"
<hacicspe@gmail.com> </hacicspe@gmail.com><br/>To: "pianotech mailing list"
<pianotech@ptg.org> </pianotech@ptg.org><br/>Received: 3/24/2008 11:27:57 AM<br/>Subject: more trouble than it's worth (was tune, chip with oversized pins?)<br/><br/>
<div align="left">hi guys </div>
<div>thanks for the input.</div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial"><em>I don't get the question exactly. Are you replacing tuning pins without restringing? The whole set?</em></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial"><font color="#000000">yes, the whole set, without restringing.</font></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><font color="#000000"><em><font color="#330099">...damper adjustments. etc. Speaking of which, you should remove the dampers when repinning, especially in the bass.</font></em> </font></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><font color="#000000"> </font></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><font color="#000000">i didn't want to get into dampers. i still at the point where i don't like them. uh but i guess if i'm to do the job i have no choice. at this point, the owner might as well replace the block. i guess she had it "rebuilt" 20-30 years ago. she called it rebuilt, but it might have just been a refurbish without a new block because the pins are so loose. </font></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><font color="#000000"> </font></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><font color="#000000">these are the jobs that are frustrating to me, because it's always "well if you're going to do this, you might as well do that, and if you're going to do that, then you might as well do this." i think it's the stress of not knowing how much to estimate.</font></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><font color="#000000"> </font></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><font color="#000000">anyway...</font></span></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><font color="#000000">daniel</font></span></span></div>
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