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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Wim, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I like the idea of the posts cards to hand to the customers. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Can you please tell me your method for cleaning the plate?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>David Weiss<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Willem
Blees<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 30, 2008 12:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Grand Cleaning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:.25in'>I've just made up post
cards I can hand to my customers when I see a need for cleaning service.
It not only explains what I'm going to do, but also includes a short
disclaimer. I could do the work in the customer's house, but I want to
shape hammers and tighten screws on my bench in my shop, not on the
piano, the floor, or the piano bench. <span style='font-size:
18.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>Upright cleaning service:
$175.00<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>1. Remove action<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>2. Shape hammers<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>3. Tighten screws<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>4. Blow dirt out of action<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>5. Clean keys<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>6. Vacuum under keys and bottom of
the piano<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>7. Clean and polish pedals. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Cleaning service does not include case cleaning, touch up,
or polishing, action regulation or any repairs to the piano, action, case,
strings, or any other piano components.<span style='font-size:18.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Grand piano cleaning service: $275.00<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>1. Remove action<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>2. Shape hammers<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>3. Tighten screws<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>4. Blow dirt out of action<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>5. Vacuum keyframe<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>6. Clean keys<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>7. Vacuum action cavity<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>8. Clean under strings<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>9. Clean plate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>10. Clean pin area<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>11. Clean and polish pedals and
pedal rods.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Cleaning service does not include case cleaning, touch up,
or polishing, action regulation or any repairs to the piano, action, case,
strings, or any other piano components. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT<br>
Piano Tuner/Technician<br>
Honolulu, HI<br>
Author of <br>
The Business of Piano Tuning<br>
available from Potter Press<br>
www.pianotuning.com<o:p></o:p></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Isaac Sadigursky <irs.pianos@earthlink.net><br>
To: 'Pianotech List' <pianotech@ptg.org><br>
Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 8:03 pm<br>
Subject: RE: Grand Cleaning<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Hi,Mathtew!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I do clean pianos daily and what works for me is:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>ELECTROLUX vacuum cleaner with TWO hoses.First,vacuum all possible
dust and junk,then using blower end in one hand and suction end in another hand
proceed and this powerful vacuum will do the trick..Few more precausons
to keep dust from flying all over customers living room;put damp cloth on
sndbrd around the tail of a grand piano,it works as an arrestor for dust…All
procedure takes less then 20 minutes..Vacuum is equipped with automatic
cord rewinder,2 hoses,rags,towels are packed in roll-away wheeled luggage
case…good luck…Isaac</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</span></u></a>
[<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?"><u><span style='color:blue'>mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</span></u></a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Willem Blees<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 28, 2008 11:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>pianotech@ptg.org</span></u></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Grand Cleaning</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Matthew<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>You've gotten some good advice, but what I have not seen is
what I used to do in St. Louis, and something I am going to
start doing for my customer here in Hawaii. For grands, I take the
action home and clean the keys, vacuum under the keys, tighten the screws
and shape the hammers. When I return to the customer, I vacuum out the action
cavity, clean the soundboard with a damp rag, using a soundboard steel,
clean the plate and vacuum the pin area using a hard bristle paint brush. The
most important part of this is cleaning the soundboard and the pin area
because that is what the customer sees. One other thing I will do is clean
the pedals. The salt air here on the island corrodes most pedals. But
all you will have to do is polish them. It adds a nice touch. It will take
about 2 hours to do all of this, plus a second trip to the customer's
house, so price it accordingly. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT<br>
Piano Tuner/Technician<br>
Honolulu, HI<br>
Author of <br>
The Business of Piano Tuning<br>
available from Potter Press<br>
<a href="http://www.pianotuning.com/" target="_blank"><u><span
style='color:blue'>www.pianotuning.com</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Matthew Todd <<a href="mailto:toddpianoworks@yahoo.com"><u><span
style='color:blue'>toddpianoworks@yahoo.com</span></u></a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>pianotech@ptg.org</span></u></a><br>
Sent: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 7:06 am<br>
Subject: Grand Cleaning<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>A client wants me to come over and clean her Kawai
grand. This will be my first, and I was curious as to what kind of
service(s) I can offer her. According to the "G" piano works
labor guide, a complete grand cleaning can take as long as 3.5 hrs. When
I talked with my client, she had only mentioned about cleaning the soundboard,
but then again, she may not realize all the dust that can accumulate in her
keybed, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>What kind of cleaning services do you all offer? Do
you offer the most basic service and go up to the most complete cleaning?
When I go through a car wash, I can pay three bucks, and all they'll do is hose
my car down. Or I can pay more for scrubbing, and even more to get the
wheels done. I just need advice on how to sort this out. 3.5 hrs
sounds like a great service, but I don't know how many clients are willing to
pay that.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks in advance!<br>
Matthew<o:p></o:p></p>
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