Come on guys, lighten up.  If you want to get into trivial name-calling, take it off line. Paul <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td width=40%>John Delacour <JD@Pianomaker.co.uk> Sent by: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org 04/09/2008 02:44 PM <table border> <tr valign=top> <td bgcolor=white> <div align=center>Please respond to Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org></div></table> <td width=59%> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>To</div> <td>Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>cc</div> <td> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>Subject</div> <td>Re: stretching wire</table> <table> <tr valign=top> <td> <td></table> </table> <tt>At 14:05 -0500 9/4/08, Ron Nossaman wrote: >Since I don't use it, nor do I encounter it in field work, I don't >really care what Paulello's #1 or #2 wire does, as long as it does >it somewhere else. As seems to be a universal lack of communication >with you The fact is you simply can't bear to have facts demonstrated to you that aren't written ad nauseam in the Gospel according Ron Nossaman and that any serious scientific data is beyond your powers of understanding. >I'm talking about the modern music wire that the overwhelming >majority of piano manufacturers and techs employ, where you're >talking about anything you can that seems to contradict it, however >dissimilar. Absolute nonsense.  You simply refuse to read anything that contradicts your bone-headed opinion that wire is perfectly elastic. It doesn't make a scrap of difference what steel wire is involved; it's just that the Paulello wire demonstrates the phenomenon in such a way that it's clear for all to see without doing precise experiments. >  When you can cite some science that's known to someone other than >yourself, I'd be more than happy to listen. As I said, I'm >interested in real information about modern music wire. In the patent I suggested you look at, published in 1985, what sort of wire do you think they were dealing with, for heavens' sake?!  Of course you did not read it. >>I will finally do some experiments this summer and confirm once and >>for all the falsehood of your assertions. > >Don't bother on my account, unless you can reference a credible >source of information less than 150 years old. Trust me, I would never do anything on your account -- unless perhaps your teeth were on fire, but your bone-headed self-importance certainly stimulates me to speak up against the nonsense you propagate on this list on this topic and others. JD </tt>