<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <title>Re: Professional practices, was "pay you later"</title> </head> <body> <div align="left">If Mastercard/Visa/Discovery/Amex catch you passing on your credit service costs you would be in a world of hurt. It is absolutely, strictly, strictly verbotten! It's just another of their high-handed practices.</div> <div align="left"> </div> <div align="left">As to PayPal, I dunno. Read the fine print.<br/><br/>Alan Barnard<br/>Salem, MO<br/><br/></div> <div align="left"> <hr/>Original message<br/>From: paulrevenkojones@aol.com<br/>To: pianotech@ptg.org<br/>Received: 4/11/2008 5:15:50 PM<br/>Subject: Re: Professional practices, was "pay you later"<br/><br/> <div align="left"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's an interesting legal question. Be a bit wary and find out whether you can in fact do that. <br/><br/>P<br/></font></div> <blockquote style="padding-left: 3px; border-left: blue 2px solid">It does cost you about 3% for the service You can add that to the invoice if you like.</blockquote> <div><br/></div> <div><br/></div> <div><br/></div>-----Original Message-----<br/>From: AlliedPianoCraft <AlliedPianoCraft@hotmail.com><br/>To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org><br/>Sent: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 4:48 pm<br/>Subject: Re: Professional practices, was "pay you later"<br/><br/> <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_50adc0c9-926b-4a37-a6f5-732e1d73a736"> <div><font face="Arial">John, just set up an account with PayPal and you can then send email invoices. They pay with a credit card and the money is then deposited in you account almost immediately. It does cost you about 3% for the service You can add that to the invoice if you like. </font></div> <div><font face="Arial"> </font></div> <div><font face="Arial">Al Guecia</font></div> <blockquote dir="ltr" style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid; margin-right: 0px"> <div style="font: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="background: rgb(228,228,228) 0% 50%; font: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial"><b>From:</b> <a title="formsma@gmail.com" href="mailto:formsma@gmail.com">John Formsma</a> </div> <div style="font: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><b>To:</b> <a title="pianotech@ptg.org" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</a> </div> <div style="font: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 11, 2008 2:09 PM</div> <div style="font: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Professional practices, was "pay you later"</div> <div><br/></div>Agreed with your points below. <div><br/></div> <div>How do you send an email invoice?  Do you do a PDF with the Mac?  Using Quickbooks to do the invoice?</div> <div><br/></div> <div>What about people who don't have an email?  I have a few older customers who don't have a computer.</div> <div><br/></div> <div>I think email is a good way to go, considering our modern era.  My practice now is to leave an invoice.  Most people expect to pay me before I leave.  I allow churches to mail payment.  And folks who aren't at home while I'm there.</div> <div><br/></div> <div>--</div> <div>JF<br/><br/> <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:24 PM, David Andersen <<a href="mailto:david@davidandersenpianos.com">david@davidandersenpianos.com</a>> wrote:<br/> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left: 1ex; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"> <div>My friends---- <div><br/></div> <div>Would you like to be treated like a doctor, or a lawyer, or a skilled artisan?</div> <div><br/></div> <div>Or would you like to be treated like a day worker, or a cable installer, or a shade-tree mechanic? </div> <div><br/></div> <div>In the first group, the work, and the atmosphere surrounding the work, is the focus; actual money exchange happens later.</div> <div><br/></div> <div>In the second group, the focus is on getting the check.</div> <div><br/></div> <div>If you want to make more money and have more respect, act like a business with cash flow. If somebody wants to give you a check, OK.</div> <div>I hardly ever handle money now, and most of my clients (still) are private entities. I send an email invoice within 24 hours of the work; I haven't been stiffed once since I started this protocol 6 years ago. Well, once, by a white-collar criminal in Malibu...300 bucks.</div> <div><br/></div> <div>A hard and fast rule: those who<b><span style="text-decoration: underline"> seem</span></b> like they couldn't care less about getting paid make a lot more money and are trusted quicker and deeper. People just like it better way back in the deep, old part of their brains. Don't fight the wiring.</div> <div><br/></div><font color="#888888"> <div>David Andersen</div> <div>(flame suit on)</div></font> </div> </blockquote> </div><br/><br/> </div> </blockquote> </div> <div class="aol_ad_footer" id="u8CA6A38BBF4ED53-16A0-3831"><font style="font: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; color: black"> <hr style="margin-top: 10px"/>Get the <a title="http://www.mapquest.com/toolbar?NCID=mpqmap00030000000003" href="http://www.mapquest.com/toolbar?NCID=mpqmap00030000000003" target="_blank">MapQuest Toolbar</a>, Maps, Traffic, Directions & More!</font> </div> </div> </body> </html>