<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16608" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV dir=ltr align=left> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>Have your friend go back to the library (or his favorite bookstore) and pick up a copy of Giraffes, Black Dragons and Other Pianos, by Edwin M Good. All will be revealed.</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>Among other things your friend will learn that square pianos have been made and grand pianos have been made but there is no such thing as a square grand. He will also learn that Mathushek, and possibly others, attempted to bring back the square in the 1930s. Unsuccessfully. </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>ddf</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left> <HR tabIndex=-1> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ginny Bear Sent: April 16, 2008 9:37 AM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Dating Square Grands and 8' Old Uprights </DIV> <DIV></DIV> A piano technician friend who is not on this list asked me to put his question to you all.  He is writing a newsletter.   I had suggested Google, the library, and Wikipedia, but he said the answers were not there.   Does anyone have any suggestions beyond those?   "When were square grands made? Dates I've seen have ranged from 1830 to 1900. I wanted to know about the big solid wood ones with three foot pedals, which I think was 1845 to 1890 but not sure."   "The other one was for the first upright pianos that were very tall, about 8 feet. The strings were from the keyboard height up and had wooden foot pedals. I saw the information somewhere but cannot find it now. The date that comes to mind is 1820, but again not sure."   Thanks,   Ginny Bear</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>