<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"> <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Mark,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'> Thanks SO much for the detail! I knew this by another name but it’s good to have it spelled out, again. Perhaps it will sink in this time!<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>All the best,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Greg Newell<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Greg's Piano Forté<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>www.gregspianoforte.com<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>216-226-3791 (office)<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>216-470-8634 (mobile)<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Potter<br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:59 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Pianotech List<br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: Piano refinsihing question<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><i>Greg Newell <gnewell@ameritech.net></i></b> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mark,<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>                Could you describe a formal rubbed ebony finish? Please?! Thanks in advance!!<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><span style='font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Greg -</span></strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><span style='font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Well, it's late, and to describe the process in detail would require an entirechapter in a finishing book, but here's an outline...</span></strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><span style='font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The basic concept is to manipulate every square inch of the applied finish by sanding, rubbing, etc to produce a finished surface far superior in look and touch to anything that could ever come straight off the gun (or brush). Rubbing to hi-gloss is a bit of a different animal, but not drastically so.  Personally I like to rub to a satin or semi-gloss surface. This entails leveling the finish(after all topcoats are applied) by sanding, either by hand with long straight strokes with a flat block/pad, or for those going the ultimate route - using an in-line sander. Once everything is flat, say with 600 paper, you start bringing the sheen up to where you want it, using wool or scotchbrite or abralon or other pad of your choice, with lubricant of your choice, again going in long, straight strokes, with ever finer grit of pad.  The scratch pattern created by these strokes needs to be very uniform for the end result to be stunning.  </span></strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><span style='font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is good to remember that you are ultimately removing a fair amount of material, which therefore requires you to apply multiple coats to a surface you have leveled several times, otherwise you will most certainly rub thru the finish at some location in the process. Bad juju.  The most dangerous areas for this to occur are the edges, of course, where you just can't pile on material, and where sanding strokes can easily get destructive.  Rounding slightly every sharp edge before the finishing process begins will go along way towards minimizing this inherent danger.</span></strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><span style='font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That the basic idea, and if it sounds like alot of work, you're absolutely right. It is, however, IMO, the ultimate finished surface.  Hard to keep your hands off it...so enticing...</span></strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><span style='font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mark</span></strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> </div> </body> </html>