<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">"Relaxation" does seem to be the key word to search for in relation to the phenomenon we are discussing.  Here's an abstract from another paper (1992) -- again music wire including at normal temperatures:</blockquote> <div> Well I have to admit this is very compelling. I am tentatively sliding off the agnostic fence to join you. I still do not claim to understand the phenomenon, but the evidence being presented is strongly stacking up on the side of "stretching over time", no matter what decide to call it. I am also confused as to the relationship between "creep" and "relaxation", and I'm not sure I understand what is actually happening on the molecular level, but it seems clear that something important is. I look forward to hearing Ron Nossaman's reaction to this. Unless he has a compelling rebuttal, I think my mind is starting to settle. Thank you so much for your efforts in research and education, and let us all try and keep our worldviews vulnerable to new evidence. [kurt] </div></div>