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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Al,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would concur with Dean, I've had great results
plugging the block, I cut my own out of scrap. The sides need to come off to
install the SB. Michael Campi showed me a method of sawing a kerf on the back
side up the glue line with a skill saw, makes knocking the side off much easier,
a shim is made to reassemble. Look real close for screws coming into the side
through the end beam. Also, bridge locating is a little trickier because there
is no rim to reference to, I use the block area up high and build up a
removable fixture at the bottom of the piano for reference. Other than that,
it's straight forward, even easier because there's no rim so your not working
down in a hole and the SB can be trimmed flush after glue up. A little thought
has to go into clamping, use boards and fulcrums to get your clamps to "reach"
over the pinblock (see photo).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fenton</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=deanmay@pianorebuilders.com
href="mailto:deanmay@pianorebuilders.com">Dean May</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 21, 2008 9:50
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Rebuilding an upright</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I would heartily
recommend the pin block plugs from Webb Phillips instead of replacing the
entire pin block. They are easy to install and probably cheaper when you count
reduced labor costs. Check out <A
href="http://www.alliedpiano.com/pinblock.htm">http://www.alliedpiano.com/pinblock.htm</A>.
They sell a gap filling glue to use with them but I just used Tite Bond with
excellent results. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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May</U1:PERSONNAME>
cell 812.239.3359 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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812.235.5272 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>AlliedPianoCraft<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, April 21, 2008 11:45
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Rebuilding an
upright</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I just got a call to rebuild a
Stieff upright which the customer believes was made in the 1920"s. He wants a
new soundboard, pinblock etc.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">While I have installed many
soundboards (I don't make my own) and pinblocks in grands, I have never
replaced any in uprights. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have two
questions: 1, Is it more or less difficult to replace a
soundboard and pinblock on an upright? 2, Comparative price.
How should I estimate the job as compared to a
grand.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for any
input.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Al
Guecia</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>