<div>  1.  New strings</div> <div>  2.  Tuning pins</div> <div>  3.  Possibly pinblock</div> <div>  4.  Possibly soundboard</div> <div>  5.  Dampers</div> <div>  6.  Hammers</div> <div>  7.  Replace all felts</div> <div>  8.  Trapwork needs overhauling</div> <div>  9.  six tunings</div> <div>10.  Moving piano</div> <div>11.  Full regulation</div> <div>12.  Not to mention adding 30% to the above</div> <div> </div> <div>This is a public school.<BR><BR><B><I>Willem Blees <wimblees@aol.com></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><WBR>Matthew<BR><BR>$25 - $30 to rebuild. Man that's high. That's what it cost to rebuild a D, with a new board and refinished. All you're doing is strings and block, dampers and hammers. That should only be about $6. <BR><BR>Is this a private school? <BR><BR> <DIV style="CLEAR: both">Wim<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Matthew Todd <toddpianoworks@att.net><BR>To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org><BR>Sent: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 3:04 am<BR>Subject: Re: Story and Clark Grand (Water Damage)<BR><BR></DIV> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_2_b8680ee7-52ca-4159-9aad-5635ce89d8db> <DIV>Deciding whether it's totaled is a no-brainer.  Once rebuilt, it'll go for <STRONG><U>at least</U></STRONG> 5 grand.  But considering it'll cost 25 or 30 grand to rebuild, hmmmm......</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sorry, no insurance company involved here (thank the Lord).  That's why the school is dealing strictly with me.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Matthew<BR><BR><B><I>Willem Blees <<A href="mailto:wimblees@aol.com">wimblees@aol.com</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><WBR>Matthew<BR><BR>Yes, $4000. It's not up to you to decide if the piano is totaled. If the cost of rebuilding it exceeds, or even comes close to what a new piano costs, the insurance company will most likely recommend that the school buy a new piano.<BR><BR><BR><BR> <DIV style="CLEAR: both">Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT<BR>Piano Tuner/Technician<BR>Honolulu, HI<BR>Author of <BR>The Business of Piano Tuning<BR>available from Potter Press<BR><A href="http://www.pianotuning.com/" target=_blank>www.pianotuning.com</A></DIV><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Matthew Todd <<A href="mailto:toddpianoworks@att.net">toddpianoworks@att.net</A>><BR>To: Pianotech List <<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>><BR>Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 4:55 pm<BR>Subject: Re: Story and Clark Grand (Water Damage)<BR><BR> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_2_df5ddc5e-68db-4ab7-8279-e0ff03bb2912> <DIV>$4,000?!?  I know it'll go for more than that, but what you're saying is that the piano is totaled....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Matthew<BR><BR><B><I>Willem Blees <<A href="mailto:wimblees@aol.com">wimblees@aol.com</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><WBR>Matthew<BR><BR>Send the school an estimate for complete rebuilding, including a new pin block, etc. Then wait. <BR><BR>Unfortunately, it might not be up to the principal or music teacher to make the final decision. The school's insurance company will decide if it is worth rebuilding or buy a new piano. In any case, ask someone in the superintendents office what the limit is for bidding out jobs. In some schools this figure is very low, in which case they are going to have to send out bid requests, and you're might not get the job after all. This is nothing against you. It's just the way some of the laws on bidding are written. <BR><BR>If the school is going to buy a new piano, they will have to ask for bids for that, too. Unless the dealer will give them something in trade, the school can't just sell you the piano, either. They have to go through the same process as buying something. They have to advertise it, and sell it to the highest bidder. It's up to you how much you want to give for the piano, taking into account that a rebuilt S&C grand might only fetch about $4000, if that much. <BR><BR> <DIV style="CLEAR: both">Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT<BR>Piano Tuner/Technician<BR>Honolulu, HI<BR>Author of <BR>The Business of Piano Tuning<BR>available from Potter Press<BR><A href="http://www.pianotuning.com/" target=_blank>www.pianotuning.com</A></DIV><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Matthew Todd <<A href="mailto:toddpianoworks@yahoo.com">toddpianoworks@yahoo.com</A>><BR>To: <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A><BR>Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 2:03 pm<BR>Subject: Story and Clark Grand (Water Damage)<BR><BR> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_2_39540e3c-01cd-4d6e-8808-90b98f590562> <DIV>Okay guys,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I returned from my inspection at the school with the water damaged piano.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The piano is a 1969 Story and Clark Grand.  It is sad, but it could be worse.  The soundboard and pinblock looked fine beside the anticipated water stain on the board.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It will need a complete restringing.  All the tuning pins are rusted.  All hammers will need replacing as well as all felts and dampers, obviously.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is a Story and Clark Grand with a Yamaha action.  Can someone explain the history and connection here?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Since this is at a public school, I am sure they will agree to the partial rebuild at the drop of a hat (yeah, right!).  Have any of you had any luck with a school agreeing to this kind of work?  If they don't, I wonder if I can buy it from them and do it myself?  Good experience, huh?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Matthew</DIV> <DIV> <HR SIZE=1> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! 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