Opps, yeah...<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Farrell <<a href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff"><div class="Ih2E3d"> <div>"Costs (prices, actually) go UP when the producer's ability to produce product exceeds demand."</div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> </div><div><font face="Arial">Can I assume you meant to say: Prices go up when demand exceeds the producer's ability to produce product?</font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">I'm no economist either.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">Terry Farrell</font></div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><div class="Ih2E3d"> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"> <b>From:</b> <a title="paul@bruesch.net" href="mailto:paul@bruesch.net" target="_blank">paul bruesch</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="pianotech@ptg.org" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank">Pianotech List</a> </div> </div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:47 PM</div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: OT - Gas I gasped!</div> <div><br></div>Matthew, <br><br>I'm hardly an economist, but I think the way it would actually work is that the cost of ELECTRICITY would go up, if anything. Look at the seasonal (driving/flying vacation/holiday time) gas price increases.<br><br>Costs (prices, actually) go UP when the producer's ability to produce product exceeds demand. Since the oil companies are having a harder and harder time finding dead dinosaurs to exploit, and since they don't want to "invest" their windfall profits in building more refineries, we have rising prices at the pump. The reason we're using so much is that we WASTE a lot. A LOT. (I tried to detail a few simple examples in a previous post on this thread.)<br><br>When/if a significant transition to electrically-powered cars comes about, gee, what will big oil do? Those poor investors (including some Supreme Court Justices) won't be able to share their windfall profits. They'll have to start building, hmmm, oil-fired electricity generating plants. <br><br>Paul Bruesch<br>Stillwater, MN<br>Driving my Kayak down the River<br><br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Matthew Todd <<a href="mailto:toddpianoworks@att.net" target="_blank">toddpianoworks@att.net</a>> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Because . . . . the higher prices go, the more go to electric, causing the prices to go up even more! <div> <div></div> <div><br><br><b><i>Farrell <<a href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com" target="_blank">mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</a>></i></b> wrote: <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;"> <div><font face="Arial">How so? Seems to me electric vehicles would reduce the demand for gasoline and thus help to lower fuel prices. How would it work otherwise?</font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">Terry Farrell</font></div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"> <b>From:</b> <a title="toddpianoworks@att.net" href="mailto:toddpianoworks@att.net" target="_blank">Matthew Todd</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="pianotech@ptg.org" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank">Pianotech List</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:45 AM</div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: OT - Gas I gasped!</div> <div><br></div>They are helping yes, exactly!<br><br><b><i>Farrell <<a href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com" target="_blank">mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</a>></i></b> wrote: <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;"> <div><font face="Arial">I think we're getting off topic, so I changed the subject line to reflect it.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">To the best of my knowledge, supply and demand. Are you suggesting electric cars are driving up gasoline prices?</font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial">Terry Farrell</font></div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"> <b>From:</b> <a title="toddpianoworks@att.net" href="mailto:toddpianoworks@att.net" target="_blank">Matthew Todd</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="pianotech@ptg.org" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank">Pianotech List</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:20 AM</div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Gas I gasped!</div> <div><br></div> <div>Yeah, and why do we think the gas prices are so high???  Sheesh!</div> <div> </div> <div>Matthew</div> <div> </div> <div><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Check out <a href="http://teslamotors.com" target="_blank">teslamotors.com</a>.  All electric car....a little pricey now, but so were hand held calculators when they came out.</font> <br><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Paul</font> <br></div></blockquote></blockquote><br></blockquote></blockquote><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div> </blockquote></div><br>