<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3314" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hey guys, the big OT is in the subject. Presumably we're not offending anyone. I sure would like to be a fly on the wall for this.......</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=toddpianoworks@att.net href="mailto:toddpianoworks@att.net">Matthew Todd</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:47 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: OT - Gas I gasped!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Hey Paul,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You may e-mail me privately if you wish, as this is not a topic for this list.  With that said, I want to thank you again for your <STRONG><EM><U>opinion</U></EM></STRONG>, as we are both entitled to it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Matthew<BR><BR><B><I>paul bruesch <<A href="mailto:paul@bruesch.net">paul@bruesch.net</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Matthew,<BR>Are you able to present evidence to support your hypothesis of rising oil prices resulting from lowered oil consumption, or to dispute my observations? My statements reflect my observations of the obvious, not just opinion.<BR>Paul<BR><BR> <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Matthew Todd <<A href="mailto:toddpianoworks@att.net">toddpianoworks@att.net</A>> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Thanks for your opinion.  I won't hold it against you :-). <DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=Wj3C7c><BR><BR><B><I>paul bruesch <<A href="mailto:paul@bruesch.net" target=_blank>paul@bruesch.net</A>></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">Matthew, <BR><BR>I'm hardly an economist, but I think the way it would actually work is that the cost of ELECTRICITY would go up, if anything. Look at the seasonal (driving/flying vacation/holiday time) gas price increases.<BR><BR>Costs (prices, actually) go UP when the producer's ability to produce product exceeds demand. Since the oil companies are having a harder and harder time finding dead dinosaurs to exploit, and since they don't want to "invest" their windfall profits in building more refineries, we have rising prices at the pump. The reason we're using so much is that we WASTE a lot. A LOT. (I tried to detail a few simple examples in a previous post on this thread.)<BR><BR>When/if a significant transition to electrically-powered cars comes about, gee, what will big oil do? Those poor investors (including some Supreme Court Justices) won't be able to share their windfall profits. They'll have to start building, hmmm, oil-fired electricity generating plants. <BR><BR>Paul Bruesch<BR>Stillwater, MN<BR>Driving my Kayak down the River<BR><BR> <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Matthew Todd <<A href="mailto:toddpianoworks@att.net" target=_blank>toddpianoworks@att.net</A>> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Because . . . . the higher prices go, the more go to electric, causing the prices to go up even more! <DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Farrell <<A href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com" target=_blank>mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</A>></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>How so? Seems to me electric vehicles would reduce the demand for gasoline and thus help to lower fuel prices. How would it work otherwise?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228); FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial"><B>From:</B> <A title=toddpianoworks@att.net href="mailto:toddpianoworks@att.net" target=_blank>Matthew Todd</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target=_blank>Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:45 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B> Re: OT - Gas I gasped!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>They are helping yes, exactly!<BR><BR><B><I>Farrell <<A href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com" target=_blank>mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</A>></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>I think we're getting off topic, so I changed the subject line to reflect it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>To the best of my knowledge, supply and demand. Are you suggesting electric cars are driving up gasoline prices?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228); FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial"><B>From:</B> <A title=toddpianoworks@att.net href="mailto:toddpianoworks@att.net" target=_blank>Matthew Todd</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target=_blank>Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:20 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Gas I gasped!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Yeah, and why do we think the gas prices are so high???  Sheesh!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Matthew</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Check out <A href="http://teslamotors.com/" target=_blank>teslamotors.com</A>.  All electric car....a little pricey now, but so were hand held calculators when they came out.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Paul</FONT> <BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>