<table cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0' border='0' background='none' style='font-family:arial;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;width:100%;'><tr><td valign='top' style='font: inherit;'><P>This is supposed to be a Piano Tuning Forum.  I am here to learn a lot about tuning and repairing pianos.</P> <P> </P> <P>There are many other Forums much more suited to Political Rhetoric.  Please stay within the subject matter.  I am all for freedom of speech...but let's talk keys here...not politics.</P> <P> </P> <P>Marc P. Mailhot</P> <P>Marco Polo Music</P> <P>Westbrook, ME USA<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 5/24/08, pianotech-request@ptg.org <I><pianotech-request@ptg.org></I></B> wrote:<BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: pianotech-request@ptg.org <pianotech-request@ptg.org><BR>Subject: Pianotech Digest, Vol 1299, Issue 93<BR>To: pianotech@ptg.org<BR>Date: Saturday, May 24, 2008, 9:08 PM<BR><BR><PRE>Send Pianotech mailing list submissions to pianotech@ptg.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pianotech-request@ptg.org You can reach the person managing the list at pianotech-owner@ptg.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Pianotech digest..."</PRE><PRE>Today's Topics: 1. Una corda and double damper lift (paul bruesch) 2. Re: Form your own Opinion (William R. Monroe) 3. Re: FW: Form your own Opinion (Avery Todd) 4. Re: Form your own Opinion (Allen Wright) 5. Re: Form your own opinion (David Boyce) 6. Re: Form your own Opinion (Jim) 7. Fw: Spanish street piano (Thos Carpenter) 8. Re: Form your own Opinion (paul bruesch) 9. RE: Una corda and double damper lift (Owen Greyling) 10. Re: Una corda and double damper lift (Barbara Richmond) 11. Re: Form your own Opinion (William R. Monroe) 12. RE: Piano dolly for Technic Electric Piano (Rex Roseman)</PRE><PRE>A client has a Young Chang TG-150, mfg in 2000. When I press the shift pedal, it doesn't go down very far, and the action does not shift far enough to play only two strings. I adjusted it so that it would shift farther, but then the dampers of the wound bichords to the right of the break (there are about eight such notes) would lift in pairs... for example, playing D3 with the shift pedal down results in dampers for D3 and D#3 being raised. This only happens on those eight or so notes, not in the plain wire treble, nor in the wound bichords left of the break. Any ideas? Thanks, Paul Bruesch Stillwater, MN</PRE> <DIV id=yiv525316372> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>YES, YES, YES.  Marshall is a black eye on this list.  If there is something in this individual to salvage, someone who knows and interacts with this individual needs to get the message across that he's [always] out of line, thoughtless, flippant, rude, etc., etc., etc.  He has no respect on this list.  My guess is he's just as thick in person, unfortunately.  My reaction to this guy is on line with Mr. Sivak's.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>William R. Monroe  </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV>Second this motion.<BR><BR><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">P</FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT><BR></DIV><BR> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_2_76e3b92e-aac9-410a-95f2-c92c0cc1fed9>Please leave this kind of evil horsesh*t out of this list. I'm serious. Can't you guys on the list who know this clown have a talk with him? This is the worst of the worst. <DIV>David Andersen</DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 13px Tahoma; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Hey everyone,<BR>Check out the video clip.  It's important that we know about this sort of thing. <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>Marshall<BR></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV id=yiv687813757>And you're posting this on the pianotech list why????????????????? <BR><BR> <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Marshall Gisondi <<A href="mailto:pianotune05@hotmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>pianotune05@hotmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"></SPAN></SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Hey everyone,<BR>Check out the video clip.  It's important that we know about this sort of thing.  <BR>Marshall<BR></SPAN></SPAN><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR>   <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px">  <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: bookman old style, new york, times, serif"> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: bookman old style, new york, times, serif"> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DL> <DD> <DL> <DD><BR>  </DD> <DD><A href="http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036</A><BR></DD> <DD><BR><BR> </DD></DL></DD> <DD><BR>  </DD></DL></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>________________________________________<BR>PeoplePC Online<BR>A better way to Internet<BR><A href="http://www.peoplepc.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.peoplepc.com</A></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <HR> Change the world with e-mail. <A href="http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld" target=_blank rel=nofollow>Join the i'm Initiative from Microsoft.</A> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <HR> Make every e-mail and IM count. <A href="http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_+MakeCount" target=_blank rel=nofollow>Join the i'm Initiative from Microsoft.</A></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV id=yiv1184107869>I agree with Will: this sort of thing has no business at all being on a listserve about piano tech matters; I don't want or need to know about your politics, Mr. Gisondi. <DIV><BR class=webkit-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>Sincerely,</DIV> <DIV><BR class=webkit-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>Allen Wright, RPT</DIV> <DIV><BR class=webkit-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV><BR class=webkit-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV><BR class=webkit-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV>On May 24, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Marshall Gisondi wrote:</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 13px Tahoma; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"></SPAN></SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Hey everyone,<BR>Check out the video clip.  It's important that we know about this sort of thing. <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>Marshall<BR></SPAN></SPAN><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR>   <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px">  <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif"> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif"> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite=""> <DL> <DD> <DL> <DD><BR> </DD> <DD><A href="http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036</A><BR></DD> <DD><BR><BR> </DD></DL></DD> <DD><BR> </DD></DL></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>________________________________________<BR>PeoplePC Online<BR>A better way to Internet<BR><A href="http://www.peoplepc.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.peoplepc.com</A></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <HR> Change the world with e-mail.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A href="http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld" target=_blank rel=nofollow>Join the i’m Initiative from Microsoft.</A></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <HR> Make every e-mail and IM count.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A href="http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ MakeCount" target=_blank rel=nofollow>Join the i’m Initiative from Microsoft.</A></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR> <DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV>Allen Wright</DIV> <DIV>London, UK</DIV> <DIV><BR class=webkit-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Arial" face=Arial size=3><A href="http://www.broadjam.com/akwright" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.broadjam.com/akwright</A></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline></SPAN></SPAN><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline></SPAN></SPAN></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV><PRE>"Don't you get enough of politics on the media? This is a list for piano technical questions. There are plenty of other places to discuss politics. ron" Hear Hear! This list is in general a most gracious place. You ladies and gentlemen of the PTG are also kind enough to allow the list to have an international membership, to share your knowledge and experience worldwide, and to let participants in various lands offer their piano experience in return. Even if this list were a place for politics, which I heartily agree it is not, not everyone is in a position to be involved in US politics. Kind regards, David.</PRE> <DIV id=yiv1972093519> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Of course, isn't that what Freedom of Speech is all about . .  the right to say things that are unpopular, inaccurate, etc.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Didn't a lot of fine men and women over the years, from both our countries, give their lives so that we ALL could have this right . . . ??</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>i taoally agree, though, that there are OTHER fora ( lat - plural of forum, )  for tjis free expression, but not here . . </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>with respect</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Jim Kinnear</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=pianotech@a440piano.net href="mailto:pianotech@a440piano.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow>William R. Monroe</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 24, 2008 6:23 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Form your own Opinion</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>YES, YES, YES.  Marshall is a black eye on this list.  If there is something in this individual to salvage, someone who knows and interacts with this individual needs to get the message across that he's [always] out of line, thoughtless, flippant, rude, etc., etc., etc.  He has no respect on this list.  My guess is he's just as thick in person, unfortunately.  My reaction to this guy is on line with Mr. Sivak's.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>William R. Monroe  </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV>Second this motion.<BR><BR><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">P</FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT><BR></DIV><BR> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_2_76e3b92e-aac9-410a-95f2-c92c0cc1fed9>Please leave this kind of evil horsesh*t out of this list. I'm serious. Can't you guys on the list who know this clown have a talk with him? This is the worst of the worst. <DIV>David Andersen</DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 13px Tahoma; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Hey everyone,<BR>Check out the video clip.  It's important that we know about this sort of thing. <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>Marshall<BR></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV id=yiv329709188> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=cathomas1003@qwestoffice.net href="mailto:cathomas1003@qwestoffice.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow>Thos Carpenter</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:06 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Fw: Spanish street piano</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=cathomas1003@qwestoffice.net href="mailto:cathomas1003@qwestoffice.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow>Thos Carpenter</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:46 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Spanish street piano</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Dear List,</DIV> <DIV>I didn`t find anything in the archives...........</DIV> <DIV>what can you tell me about tuning the Spanish street barrel piano?  Does it use tuning pins that can be accommodated w/ our standard tuning hammer?  I`ve viewed a few on you tube.........it doesn`t seem customary that these are tuned.</DIV> <DIV>thanks,</DIV> <DIV>Tom Carpenter</DIV></DIV><PRE>But then again, there is the concept of "libel" Anonanon On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Jim <jim@jimkinnear.com> wrote: > Of course, isn't that what Freedom of Speech is all about . . the right to > say things that are unpopular, inaccurate, etc. > > Didn't a lot of fine men and women over the years, from both our countries, > give their lives so that we ALL could have this right . . . ?? > > i taoally agree, though, that there are OTHER fora ( lat - plural of forum, > ) for tjis free expression, but not here . . > > with respect > > Jim Kinnear > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: William R. Monroe > To: Pianotech List > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 6:23 PM > Subject: Re: Form your own Opinion > YES, YES, YES. Marshall is a black eye on this list. If there is something > in this individual to salvage, someone who knows and interacts with > this individual needs to get the message across that he's [always] out of > line, thoughtless, flippant, rude, etc., etc., etc. He has no respect on > this list. My guess is he's just as thick in person, unfortunately. My > reaction to this guy is on line with Mr. Sivak's. > > William R. Monroe > > Second this motion. > > P > > > Please leave this kind of evil horsesh*t out of this list. I'm serious. > Can't you guys on the list who know this clown have a talk with him? This is > the worst of the worst. > David Andersen > Hey everyone, > Check out the video clip. It's important that we know about this sort of > thing. > Marshall ></PRE><PRE>Hi Paul, Remove the stack from the action, and replace the keyframe with the keys in the action cavity. Don't force the back of the keys under the underlevers, but stop with the keys just in front of the underlevers, and check the spacing of the back of the keys in relation to the levers..both at rest, and in the shift position. You may have to space the first eight underlevers slightly more to the right. Pay attention to the keys that are operating correctly, as this will give you the best guidelines as to what spacing is correct. This will involve removing the dampers and rebending of the wires. Before you commit to that approach however, you may be able to get away with planning the width of the back of the key and end felt slightly, to create enough clearance when the shift pedal is engaged. Before you do any of this, make sure that the action shift is operating correctly in relation to the hammers and strings. Good luck, and prepare to be a hero. Owen -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of paul bruesch Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 5:36 PM To: Pianotech List Subject: Una corda and double damper lift A client has a Young Chang TG-150, mfg in 2000. When I press the shift pedal, it doesn't go down very far, and the action does not shift far enough to play only two strings. I adjusted it so that it would shift farther, but then the dampers of the wound bichords to the right of the break (there are about eight such notes) would lift in pairs... for example, playing D3 with the shift pedal down results in dampers for D3 and D#3 being raised. This only happens on those eight or so notes, not in the plain wire treble, nor in the wound bichords left of the break. Any ideas? Thanks, Paul Bruesch Stillwater, MN</PRE><PRE>Hi Paul, Was the customer complaining of una corda voicing? I don't believe all pianos/piano actions are designed to miss strings with the una corda engaged. The hammers on those designed for missing are spaced a hair to the right, so clearing the left string is easier. Depending on the situation, the fix could be as simple as slicing off a bit of the right side of the key-end felt. Or, if there are big alignment problems, shape the hammers and adjust the rest block at the bass end of the action cavity (so the action rests more to the left)--and then re-space and realign everything else. :-[ Or, for una corda voicing you can carefully voice (needle) the hammers between the string cuts. Barbara Richmond, RPT near Peoria, IL ----- Original Message ----- From: "paul bruesch" <paul@bruesch.net> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 4:36 PM Subject: Una corda and double damper lift >A client has a Young Chang TG-150, mfg in 2000. When I press the shift > pedal, it doesn't go down very far, and the action does not shift far > enough to play only two strings. I adjusted it so that it would shift > farther, but then the dampers of the wound bichords to the right of > the break (there are about eight such notes) would lift in pairs... > for example, playing D3 with the shift pedal down results in dampers > for D3 and D#3 being raised. This only happens on those eight or so > notes, not in the plain wire treble, nor in the wound bichords left of > the break. > > Any ideas? > Thanks, > Paul Bruesch > Stillwater, MN ></PRE> <DIV id=yiv554723834> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>Yes, Jim,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>I know you're probably referencing the link Mr. Gisondi posted, but it's really about his choice of written speech that is at issue.  Yes, we have rights that include freedom of speech, but it can be done respectfully, and thoughtfully, which is something Mr. Gisondi has failed to do since he has come on the list.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>In this case, it's not about free speech rights, it's about decorum, discretion, a gentleperson's agreement to not abuse their free speech rights in a forum such as this.  Anyone is free to speak what they will, and if it's unanimously deemed vapid, arrogant, ill-intentioned, and in all other ways inappropriate, they will likely receive this (equally free, solicited, and I might say justifiable) type of treatment on the list.  I'll not add any more after this, but just had to get it off my chest.  Had this heartburn for some time now.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>William R. Monroe</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua">Of course, isn't that what Freedom of Speech is all about . .  the right to say things that are unpopular, inaccurate, etc.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua">Didn't a lot of fine men and women over the years, from both our countries,<BR>give their lives so that we ALL could have this right . . . ??<BR><BR>i taoally agree, though, that there are OTHER fora ( lat - plural of forum,)  for tjis free expression, but not here . .<BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua">with respect</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua">Jim Kinnear</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT face="Book Antiqua"></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><PRE>Patrick I am not familiar with the exact structure of the legs of this instrument, but from your description, it sounds a lot like a Kurtweil "piano" keyboard that I have to work with. A local music store had its stock displayed on a set of platforms on wheels, and they had one built for this unit. It is simply a sheet of plywood with a wooden frame around the outside and covered in the material that they use for the outside of speaker cabinets (that slightly fuzzy material) with the corner braces like you find on Anvil cases. A simple set of pivoting casters are mounted to the bottom close to the corners. The only improvement that I would like to make is to lay the keyboard on its back, place the platform on its side against it, drill a set of holes through the bottom of the platform into the pressboard legs and bolt the unit to the platform. The platform or casters that you use are going to raise the instrument too high for a standard bench, but we substituted a stool that is at the correct height. An advantage of the platform is that if there is a cross piece with pedals mounted on them like the Kurtweil, your feet are at the right height to still use them correctly. (You put your feet on the platform to play.) If your unit has a stand alone sustain pedal as most keyboards do, you will be able to mount it to the platform so that it will not be dragged around, pull on the cord, every time someone moves the instrument. Rex Roseman Roseman Piano Tuning</PRE><PRE>_______________________________________________ Pianotech list info https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>