<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <STYLE>.hmmessage P { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } BODY.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma } </STYLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16640" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY class=hmmessage bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156133914-29052008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I join you guys in voting for the T-nuts.  I don't carry my tilter with me every day, but I do have the T-nuts and an assortment of machine screws to fit them.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156133914-29052008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>As far as installing them without the tilter, there is often room enough for my skinny little hand  to slip them under the piano and line them up with the hole I have drilled for them.  I pull them up into place in the bottom of the piano by using a machine screw with the pedal bracket out of the way.  Then I take the machine screw out, put the pedal bracket in place, and make the final installation with the machine screws securing the bracket into the T-nuts below.  If I need more room to work, I just prop up one end of the piano on a piece of 2x4 or some other block that I carry in my van.  I never have had to use a tilter for this job, although if you have one with you, it might make things a little quicker, then again, maybe not.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156133914-29052008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156133914-29052008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>REMINDER:  If you are drilling the holes for the T-nuts without tilting the piano, be sure to slide a piece of 1/4" plywood or something else under the piano at that point to protect the customer's floor in case your drill bit goes through the bottom board a little too far.  [ No, not PERSONAL  experience; my daddy just taught me to be careful.  :-) ]</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=156133914-29052008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=156133914-29052008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Claude H.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><BR></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left> <HR tabIndex=-1> <FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Barbara Richmond<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: pedal repair<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Aw, Marcel, I wrote that at 2 am.  Yes, I used machine screws (did you see the pictures?).  How did you press the T-nuts in from the bottom without tilting the piano--I mean, how did you get your arm under there?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Barbara</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mcpianos@hotmail.com href="mailto:mcpianos@hotmail.com">Marcel Carey</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:58 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: pedal repair</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>I completely agree that T-nuts are the repair of choice. But, Barb, I install the screws from the top. I don't have to use the nuts. I drill from the top down, then press the T-nuts up from the bottom and just use the machine screws from the top. This way, you won't have to use the ratchet or wescott to remove the pedal while doing future service.<BR> <BR>Marcel Carey<BR>Sherbrooke, QC<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR id=EC_stopSpelling> From: piano57@comcast.net<BR>To: pianotech@ptg.org<BR>Subject: pedal repair<BR>Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 02:10:44 -0500<BR><BR> <META content="Microsoft SafeHTML" name=Generator> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hey Jack,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>T-nuts!  I came upon this Kawai that another tech had used nuts and bolts---long bolts. (picture 14) Try dealing with those to fix other pedal problems!   I tilted the piano and installed the t-nuts and the right size screw-head bolt. Pictures 57 & 60.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Good luck!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Barbara Richmond, RPT</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>near Peoria, IL  </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><A href="" target=_new></A></BODY></HTML>