<WBR>  Bill<br>   Good advice. The hammers need to be capable of producing tone before you can find the sweet spot. It's amazing how many old designs had this issue.  No wonder so many Artist complain of serious treble issues in older Stwys. In My opinion , everyone, even the uprights has a strike point miscalculation.<br>   Hey I'm also teaching a segment in my Rebuilders class on Finding the Strike Line.  I optimize the strike line on every grand that goes thru the shop.   I'm not just talking about the top 5 notes either.<br>   Alicia....is this a Grand or what?<br>   Dale<br> <br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: William R. Monroe <pianotech@a440piano.net><br> To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org><br> Sent: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:45 am<br> Subject: Re: Striking point<br> <br> <div id=AOLMsgPart_2_fd1bb16a-ff23-4615-ba1b-f16495ddcedf> <STYLE>#AOLMsgPart_2_fd1bb16a-ff23-4615-ba1b-f16495ddcedf .hmmessage P { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px}#AOLMsgPart_2_fd1bb16a-ff23-4615-ba1b-f16495ddcedf BODY.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma}</STYLE> <div><FONT face="Bookman Old Style">What have you tried?  I assume you've started with raising and lowering the treble end of the action to find the "best spot."  Is the problem that the sound never becomes more defined?  Is it a balance problem like the strike point doesn't seem to be able to be good in Treble while at the same time maintaining the proper point in the tenor or bass?</FONT></div> <div><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT> </div> <div><FONT face="Bookman Old Style">Or is it more general, like as if the treble just doesn't ever sound good, no matter?  My first efforts would include shaping those treble hammers, and if they are too worn for that, new hammers.  No sense chasing good tone if it can't be had.  Once you have a well defined strike point on the hammer, then go looking for the right place on the string.  That would be my starting point.</FONT></div> <div><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT> </div> <div><FONT face="Bookman Old Style">William R. Monroe</FONT></div> <div><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT> </div> <div><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT> </div> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=eve_ane@hotmail.co.uk href="mailto:eve_ane@hotmail.co.uk">A E</A> </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:24 PM</div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Striking point</div> <div><br> </div> William,<br>  <br> Upright piano, 43inches tall, made in Ukraine in early 90's, general condition of the piano is ok, could use restoration, regulation, and a decent tuning for that matter, restoration to my guess is vital because tuning isnt held well, has structural damage. It was dropped and one of the back posts was knocked out, which I've sucessefully repaired.<br>  <br> I haven't tried much, i only have 3 years experience behind me with tuning, and I'm only 18. This is my own piano, so im experimenting, pianos i worked with before (surprisingly i did well, no complaints and i do not use an EDT) I have not readjusted anything, other than regulation. Which was good too.<br>  <br> Alicia<br> <br> <br> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:10:35 -0500<br> From: <A href="mailto:pianotech@a440piano.net">pianotech@a440piano.net</A><br> Subject: Re: Striking point<br> To: <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A><br> <br> <STYLE>#AOLMsgPart_2_fd1bb16a-ff23-4615-ba1b-f16495ddcedf .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;}#AOLMsgPart_2_fd1bb16a-ff23-4615-ba1b-f16495ddcedf .ExternalClass BODY.EC_hmmessage{font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;}</STYLE> <div><FONT face="Bookman Old Style">Alicia,</FONT></div> <div><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT> </div> <div><FONT face="Bookman Old Style">More info needed.  Grand or upright?  Old worn parts, or new/general condition of the action.  General condition of the Belly.  What have you tried?</FONT></div> <div><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT> </div> <div><FONT face="Bookman Old Style">William R. Monroe</FONT></div> <div><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT> </div> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <div><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT><br> </div> Hi,<br>  <br> I'm having real issues finding a good striking point in a piano im working on, does anyone have any advice?<br> I've read an article not too long ago in the PTG journal bout it, but it didn't help at all.<br>  <br> Thanks in advance,<br> Alicia<br> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><br> <HR> Miss your Messenger buddies when on-the-go? <A href="http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000001ukm/direct/01/" target=_blank>Get Messenger on your Mobile!</A> </BLOCKQUOTE></div> <div id='u8CA8FDA3356CAD5-1268-DA5' class='aol_ad_footer'><FONT style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">Stay informed, get connected and more <A title="http://mobile.aol.com/productOverview.jsp?productOverview=aol-mobile-overview&?&ncid=aolmbd00030000000139" href="http://mobile.aol.com/productOverview.jsp?productOverview=aol-mobile-overview&?&ncid=aolmbd00030000000139" target="_blank">with AOL on your phone</A>.</FONT> </div>