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Thank you to everyone for sharing your experience. My concern is not so much whether it will work but rather whether will it destroy a good pin block. I've seen too many pin blocks ruined by Pin Tite. I guess my question is, if it doesn't work can I still go ahead and re-pin? <div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Jonathan Best</div><div><a href="mailto:jb@bubblemusic.com">jb@bubblemusic.com</a></div><div>928-830-4887</div><div>www.bubblemusic.com</div></div></div><div><br></div></span></span></div><div><div>On Jun 3, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Matthew Todd wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; ">What consistency of CA do we find works the best?<br><br><b><i>Dean May <<a href="mailto:deanmay@pianorebuilders.com">deanmay@pianorebuilders.com</a>></i></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; "><o:smarttagtype name="PostalCode" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:smarttagtype><o:smarttagtype name="State" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:smarttagtype><o:smarttagtype name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:smarttagtype><o:smarttagtype name="City" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:smarttagtype><o:smarttagtype name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:smarttagtype><div class="Section1"><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><i><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: italic; font-family: Tahoma; ">I've never used CA glue on tuning pinns and wouldn't recoomend doing so.. I know a technician who has with disasterous results.</span></font></i><i><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-style: italic; font-family: Arial; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></i></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; ">Hi Alicia<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; ">You should expand your sample. I bet for every tech you could come up with that had disastrous results there are several dozen with excellent results. My personal results with CA have been excellent.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; ">On the other hand, my personal results with Pin Tite have been hugely disappointing. I found it to only work in 50% of the cases and in many of those cases only for 2-4 years. You also find the old grands with severely stained pin fields showing many applications of dope over the years. Those pianos typically have very spongy pins and will respond very poorly to pin tite treatment. They will, however, respond with excellent results to CA treatment.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; ">I suggest you try it! You’ll like it!<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font><font face="Wingdings" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Wingdings; ">J</span></font><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; ">2 oz apply with hypo oiler.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div><div class="MsoAutoSig" style="margin-right: 0in; 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font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><hr tabindex="-1" align="center" width="100%" size="2"></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>A E<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, June 02, 2008 10:12 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:personname w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:personname><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: CA Glue for pin blocks</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">Johnathan,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> <br>Not you're not repeating yourself...<br>I've never used CA glue on tuning pinns and wouldn't recoomend doing so.. I know a technician who has with disasterous results. I use "Pin Tite" myself to chemically treat pinblocks, and I must say it does wonders. It's about $25-30 a bottle of 8oz and lasts for a few pianos. I have crossed a Wurlitzer recently the owner told me that a technician used CA on it a bit while ago, after trying to set the temperament I fully refused to tune the piano, pins were jumping and every blow i gave a key, pin slipped...<br> <br> <br>Alicia<br><br><br> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><hr align="center" width="100%" size="2"></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br>From: <a href="mailto:jb@bubblemusic.com">jb@bubblemusic.com</a><br>Subject: CA Glue for pin blocks<br>Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:04:16 -0700<br><br>I'm new to this list and I'm not sure if I sent this before I was actually signed up. So I hope I'm not repeating myself. Has anybody had any experience using CA glue on pin blocks and subsequently restringing? How do the pins feel after a treatment? Do they jump? How long does it last? And if they do start losing their hold after a few years, or if the job turns out to be one of the 10% that doesn't work, can one still go back to simply restringing?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; 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