What consistency of CA do we find works the best?<BR><BR><B><I>Dean May <deanmay@pianorebuilders.com></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)" name=Generator> <STYLE> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </STYLE> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:SmartTagType name="PostalCode" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="State" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="City" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType
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Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi Alicia<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You should expand your sample. I bet for every tech you could come up with that had disastrous results there are several dozen with excellent results. My personal results with CA have been excellent.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">On the other hand, my personal results with Pin Tite have been hugely disappointing. I found it to only work in 50% of the cases and in many of those cases only for 2-4 years. You also find the old grands with severely stained pin fields showing many applications of dope over the years. Those pianos typically have very spongy pins and will respond very poorly to pin tite treatment. They will, however, respond with excellent results to CA treatment. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I suggest you try it! You’ll like it! </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2 oz apply with hypo oiler. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoAutoSig><B><FONT face="Bradley Hand ITC" color=navy size=6><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 22pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bradley Hand ITC'">Dean</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><?xml:namespace prefix = u1 /><u1:PERSONNAME u2:st="on"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Dean
May</u1:PERSONNAME> cell 812.239.3359 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">PianoRebuilders.com 812.235.5272 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><u1:PLACE u2:st="on"><u1:CITY u2:st="on"><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><?xml:namespace prefix = u3 /><u3:place u4:st="on"><u3:City u4:st="on">Terre Haute</SPAN></FONT></st1:City><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"></u3:place></u1:CITY></u3:City> <u1:STATE u2:st="on"><st1:State u5:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">IN</st1:State></u1:STATE></st1:State> <u1:POSTALCODE
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bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, June 02, 2008 10:12 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: CA Glue for pin blocks</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Johnathan, <BR> <BR>Not you're not repeating yourself...<BR>I've never used CA glue on tuning pinns and wouldn't recoomend doing so.. I know a technician who has with disasterous results. I use "Pin Tite" myself to chemically treat pinblocks, and I must say it does wonders. It's about $25-30 a bottle of 8oz and lasts for a few pianos. I have crossed a Wurlitzer recently the owner told me that a technician used CA on it a bit while ago, after trying to set the
temperament I fully refused to tune the piano, pins were jumping and every blow i gave a key, pin slipped...<BR> <BR> <BR>Alicia<BR><BR><BR> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">To: pianotech@ptg.org<BR>From: jb@bubblemusic.com<BR>Subject: CA Glue for pin blocks<BR>Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:04:16 -0700<BR><BR>I'm new to this list and I'm not sure if I sent this before I was actually signed up. So I hope I'm not repeating myself. Has anybody had any experience using CA glue on pin blocks and subsequently restringing? How do the pins feel after a treatment? Do they jump? How long does it last? And if they do start losing their hold after a few years,
or if the job turns out to be one of the 10% that doesn't work, can one still go back to simply restringing? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Thanks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Jonathan Best<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Prescott</SPAN></FONT></st1:City><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
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