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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jonathan,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>IMO if a piano will not stay in tune because of
loose pins, re-stringing with out a new block would not be a wise move. In other
words, you've got nothing to loose by trying some CA. The only time I would
re-string an old block would be if the torque on the original pins was still
good.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fenton</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:27
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: CA Glue for pin blocks</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Thank you to everyone for sharing your experience. My
concern is not so much whether it will work but rather whether will it destroy
a good pin block. I've seen too many pin blocks ruined by Pin Tite.
I guess my question is, if it doesn't work can I still go ahead and
re-pin?
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<DIV>Jonathan Best</DIV>
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<DIV>On Jun 3, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Matthew Todd wrote:</DIV><BR
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consistency of CA do we find works the best?<BR><BR><B><I>Dean May <<A
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never used CA glue on tuning pinns and wouldn't recoomend doing so.. I
know a technician who has with disasterous
results.</SPAN></FONT></I><I><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
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face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You should expand
your sample. I bet for every tech you could come up with that had
disastrous results there are several dozen with excellent results. My
personal results with CA have been
excellent.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">On the other
hand, my personal results with Pin Tite have been hugely disappointing. I
found it to only work in 50% of the cases and in many of those cases only
for 2-4 years. You also find the old grands with severely stained pin
fields showing many applications of dope over the years. Those pianos
typically have very spongy pins and will respond very poorly to pin tite
treatment. They will, however, respond with excellent results to CA
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>RE: CA Glue for pin
blocks</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Johnathan,<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR> <BR>Not you're not
repeating yourself...<BR>I've never used CA glue on tuning pinns and
wouldn't recoomend doing so.. I know a technician who has with disasterous
results. I use "Pin Tite" myself to chemically treat pinblocks, and I must
say it does wonders. It's about $25-30 a bottle of 8oz and lasts for a few
pianos. I have crossed a Wurlitzer recently the owner told me that a
technician used CA on it a bit while ago, after trying to set the
temperament I fully refused to tune the piano, pins were jumping and every
blow i gave a key, pin
slipped...<BR> <BR> <BR>Alicia<BR><BR><BR> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A><BR>From: <A
href="mailto:jb@bubblemusic.com">jb@bubblemusic.com</A><BR>Subject: CA
Glue for pin blocks<BR>Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:04:16 -0700<BR><BR>I'm new
to this list and I'm not sure if I sent this before I was actually signed
up. So I hope I'm not repeating myself. Has anybody had any
experience using CA glue on pin blocks and subsequently restringing?
How do the pins feel after a treatment? Do they jump? How long
does it last? And if they do start losing their hold after a few years, or
if the job turns out to be one of the 10% that doesn't work, can one still
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