She says Dislexia (is that how you spell it?)  Anyway, spell check can help as I posted a couple weeks ago.  AE, you keep on keepin' on. Best, Paul <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td width=40%>"Kerry" <kkean@neo.rr.com> Sent by: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org 07/01/2008 04:33 PM <table border> <tr valign=top> <td bgcolor=white> <div align=center>Please respond to Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org></div></table> <td width=59%> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>To</div> <td>"'Pianotech List'" <pianotech@ptg.org> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>cc</div> <td> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>Subject</div> <td>RE: Wives tales ... violin tuning</table> <table> <tr valign=top> <td> <td></table> </table> Alicia,   Please take this in the spirit in which it’s offered but your writing style bothers me. Text-messaging shortcuts make sense on a cell phone keypad, but are jarring (to me at least) in other contexts. You’ve made some interesting observations in your emails (and I understand that email is by nature informal) but in my opinion a careless writing style, poor spelling, etc., detract from what you’re saying. I’m not trying to tell you or anyone else what you can or can’t do, but I will say that I find myself giving more weight to the thoughts of those who take the time to express themselves clearly and without typos.   I don’t mean to pick on you and you’re certainly not alone in this (consider the poor example set recently at the highest levels of government). I just strongly feel that email is still writing, and sloppy writing leads to sloppy thinking. Yours just happened to be the straw that tipped me over.   Just my two cents worth (deliberate sentence fragment ;-). I’m going upstairs to put on my flame-proof suit now.     Kerry Kean Kent, Ohio   <div align=center> <hr></div> From: A E [mailto:eve_ane@hotmail.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:04 AM To: Pianotech List Subject: RE: Wives tales ... violin tuning   I messed around with my friends before who are tied down in musical field, they randomly pressed keys on my piano and 9 out of10 i got it spot on... a few years ago i had a friend (may he rest in peace) who could tell  u exactly how sharp of flat the note was, and get it withing 1-2 cents.... there is such a thing i think.... it comes with experience, and knowing ur instrument... or in my case probably sheeer dumb luck...! U cant speak for everyone in this world Matt, u dont know what people can and can not do.. as for human perfection... well in that case, perfection is in the eyes of the beholder, and no one else matteres... Alicia <div align=center> <hr></div> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:57:58 -0700 From: toddpianoworks@att.net Subject: Re: Wives tales ... violin tuning To: pianotech@ptg.org There is no such thing as PERFECT pitch, only relative pitch.  It someone had perfect pitch, it would mean it would have to be perfect, and besides Jesus Christ, I have yet to see a human that was perfect.  If indeed this customer had perfect pitch, they could be able to tell you that the note was four cents flat.  But because she said the note sounded like a "d", it is relative.   Matthew Richard Brekne <ricb@pianostemmer.no> wrote: Yes... a good sense of relative pitch memory is an interesting thing indeed. Its just that it would be best for all concerned if it were kept better in perspective... i.e. words like Perfect and Absolute left out of it. Severely extreme cases of pitch sensitivity are more a handicap then an asset. Fortunately... there are very very few on this planet that actually suffer to that degree....and correspondingly few that could with any hint of justification fnyss at someone else for erring <> pitchwise. Cheers RicB I had a customer a few days ago, whose piano I tuned 2 years ago. She played some notes and said how flat they were...the piano in general sounded reasonable. I got started and the piano was indeed about 4 cents flat and 7 in the treble. When done I asked her if she had perfect pitch...wasn't sure. I played a D and she said that sounded like a D...pretty cool... David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, CA 94044     <div align=center> <hr></div> Miss your Messenger buddies when on-the-go? <a href=http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000001ukm/direct/01/ target=_new>Get Messenger on your Mobile!</a>