<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> <font face="Arial">Julia,<br> <br> The way this 4:5 ratio method of comparing contiguous M3s works is that you listen to the speed of the lower M3. Start marking every fourth beat by beating on the stretcher or wherever. Then continue that steady beat with your hand and start counting up to 5 within that same time frame. The next higher contiguous M3 should beat similarly. No math need be done.<br> <br> In practice, you learn to detect this 25% increase in beat speed without doing the counting routine.<br> <br> I have no idea what is meant by #2.<br> <br> Regards,<br> Tom Cole<br> </font><br> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:KeyKat88@aol.com">KeyKat88@aol.com</a> wrote: <blockquote cite="midd10.2d26ae85.359e45c7@aol.com" type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; "> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name="GENERATOR"> <font id="role_document" color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2"> <div>  <div>Greetings,</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>        In hint #2 it claims that you dont want to tune a piano with it muted to single string for the first time in an exam room. What is so unnerving/bad about that, aside from just not being used to it? </div> <div> </div> <div>        In hint #18 it says that you should learn to hear 4:5 ratios on contiguous M3's by counting 1 2 3 4 and compare to 1 2 3 4 5.  How does one go about hearing beat rates while doing/counting this? Is the Source Book implying that the contiguous M3 from A2 to C#3 is 4BPS and the next M3 from C#3 to F3 is 5BPS?  If the <em>beat</em> rate in higher pairs of M3's are more than 4 or 5 BPS, say 6 or more than do you have to do the math to arrive what the contiguous M3 above it should beat like?</div> <div> </div> <div>  Also, has a tuner ever passed this exam <em>without</em> the skill of knowing how to handle/count the 4:5 ratio? Not that I am not willing to learn it but, that will take time and I have concentrated since inception of tuning on 5ths, 4ths, 3rds, 6ths, octaves and other tests.</div> <div> </div> <div>thanks in advance,</div> <div>Julia</div> <div>Reading, PA</div> <br> <br> <br> </div> </font><br> <br> <br> <div><font style="color: black; font-family: ARIAL,SAN-SERIF; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: ;"> <hr style="margin-top: 10px;">Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient <a title="http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007" href="http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007" target="_blank">used cars</a>.</font></div> </blockquote> </body> </html>