I'm not asking for bigger imput, just bigger understanding of what we're telling you!  Please take our advise as trying to be helpful, not disrespectful.  There's a lot to learned from us old dudes! That's why we have this magnificent tool. By the way, (not BTW)  I hope you have a wonderful 4th uf July and remember why we have it.  It's to have the freedom for all these wonderful insights and opinions!  I really hope you find what you're looking for on this list and not make a bunch of enemies.  We really want to help you get started.  Having 3 years at Bosey is only a start.  There's so much more to learn.  When I finishied studying with Steve Brady, I really only learned that there's so much more to learn. I realize that at your young age, you may think you know everything, but the more I learn in this business, the less I really know.  Learn from that and grow. Respectfully. Paul T. Williams RPT Piano Technician School of Music University of Nebraska Lincoln, NE 68588-0100 pwilliams4@unl.edu pw <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td width=40%>A E <eve_ane@hotmail.co.uk> Sent by: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org 07/03/2008 02:18 PM <table border> <tr valign=top> <td bgcolor=white> <div align=center>Please respond to Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org></div></table> <td width=59%> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>To</div> <td>Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>cc</div> <td> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>Subject</div> <td>RE: Customizing a piano</table> <table> <tr valign=top> <td> <td></table> </table> I woul accept advice, except some of it simply sounds the opposite. I came here to seek more about pianos, not be told that you need to make a bigger imput. Alicia <hr> To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: RE: Customizing a piano From: pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:49:06 -0500 Dear Alicia If you haven't gotten it yet...we're all trying to understand your situation and we're trying to give you well intentioned advise on how to be more professional and become a better technician. That's the whole idea behind the list! Many of the technicians on this list have been servicing pianos longer than you've been alive, and they know what they're talking about!.  If you can't accept constructive advice, perhaps you should think of another venue in which to be involved.   Paul <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td width=57%>A E <eve_ane@hotmail.co.uk> Sent by: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org 07/03/2008 01:13 PM <table border=4> <tr valign=top> <td bgcolor=white> <div align=center>Please respond to Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org></div></table> <td width=42%> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td width=17%> <div align=right>To</div> <td width=82%>Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>cc</div> <td> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>Subject</div> <td>RE: Customizing a piano</table> <table> <tr valign=top> <td> <td></table> </table> and another thing, with all due respect, im not your niece nor you, i am me, and comparing me, or yourself to someone else is like sticking a saddle on a cow! because you dont know what else i got going now do you... as it was said here, stuck foot in it and person wound up being handicapped... Alicia <hr> To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: Customizing a piano Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:28:15 -0400 From: wimblees@aol.com My niece was diagnosed as dyslexic when she was still in grade school. At first her parents and teachers thought she was mentally retarded. When it was diagnosed, she worked on it, and now has a doctorate in education. I am somewhat dyslexic. It's just a matter of applying yourself. Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT Piano Tuner/Technician Honolulu, HI 808-349-2943 www.bleespiano.com Author of The Business of Piano Tuning available from Potter Press www.pianotuning.com -----Original Message----- From: A E <eve_ane@hotmail.co.uk> To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 4:21 pm Subject: RE: Customizing a piano No matter how much yu work, if your dyslexic, it aint going to happen.. Alicia <hr> From: <a href=mailto:AlliedPianoCraft@hotmail.com>AlliedPianoCraft@hotmail.com</a> To: <a href=mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: Re: Customizing a piano Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:59:11 -0400 No one gave any of us th e "pleasure" of writing and spelling correctly, we had to study and learn. It wasn't pleasure! It was hard work.   anon     Original message From: "A E"   To: "Pianotech List"   Received: 7/2/2008 8:40:26 AM Subject: RE: Customizing a piano Maybe I was a boy and now a girl, lol... Text message mode you say, some of us arent given the pleasure of writing and spelling correctly or reading for that matter. I do my best! Alicia <hr> From: <a href=mailto:collin.s@skynet.be>collin.s@skynet.be</a> To: <a href=mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: RE: Customizing a piano Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:31:36 +0200 What if you were a boy ? You’d be kicked out immediately, without all that interest. Don’t ask how I know.   Anon.     From: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Tom Servinsky Sent: mercredi 2 juillet 2008 12:29 To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: Customizing a piano   Alicia I have been following your comments for the past several months. The core of your comments ( and your admitted sharp tongue) suggest that you are looking for dialogue,debate, ideas, and not friendship within the piano tech community. With all due respect, and I say this with us much restraint as that I can muster, and as a father of 4 girls who text m e back and forth using the same shortcut lingo, if you want this community to view you as something more than a 14 yr pimply-faced ,immature,little brat, I beg of you to clean up your presentation. Write with accepted sentence structure and above all, guard yourself against the personal bomb throwing insults. You will not be taken seriously if you continue your dialogues in the "text message" mode. You especially will not be taken seriously if you continue to pick fights with your "sharp tongue"  for the sake of picking a fight.. The old adage of judging a book by the cover plays homage to the fact that the majority of this list have a hard time finding you a credible individual for debate and insight. If you want your ideas and comments to resonate positively within this list I beg of you to clean up your shtick and resist the urges to act out. You are only digging the hole deeper and deeper. Tom Servinsky ----- Original Message ----- From: <a href=mailto:eve_ane@hotmail.co.uk>A E</a> To: <a href=mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>Pianotech List</a> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:17 PM Subject: RE: Customizing a piano   well Willem, if u think this is april fools, fly out to philadelphia and have a look at my piano and what ive done to it urself :-) u might like it, its a very pleasant little thing... also noisy accodring to my neighbours... i wrote it simply to ask about the experiments i do with my piano, an what people might think about them... alicia <div align=center> <hr></div> To: <a href=mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: Re: Customizing a piano Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:57:47 -0400 From: <a href=mailto:wimblees@aol.com>wimblees@aol.com</a> April fools was two months ago :) Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT Piano Tuner/Technician Honolulu, HI 808-349-2943 <a href=http://www.bleespiano.com/ target=_blank>www.bleespiano.com</a> Author of The Business of Piano Tuning available from Potter Press <a href=http://www.pianotuning.com/ target=_blank>www.pianotuning.com</a> -----Original Message----- From: A E <<a href=mailto:eve_ane@hotmail.co.uk>eve_ane@hotmail.co.uk</a>> To: Pianotech List <<a href=mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</a>> Sent: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 5:18 am Subject: Customizing a piano Hello all, I have recently crossed a customer who asked me to make some custom changes to his S&S model B. Such as raising the lyre height alittle (he says he has big feet and its unfomfortable for him to use the height set), so i found a couple of big guys with hairy palms to lift the piano, and put some larger casters in, which raised the piano by about almost an inch, which he said was just right.... That got me thinking... I'm 6ft tall (unfortunately) and one of the pianos I have, the keybed was so low i couldnt fit my knees underneath and it was a very... shall we say loosly uncomfortable experience playing it, as well as the same problem as the customer, i have biger feet than most and pedal height was unfomfortable, so i took up larger grand sized casters. The piano im talking about is a  43inch console which i wrote about before, (the one i fell in love with). But after i carried away on a spree with customizing it for myself, i changed entire regulation, let off is not set at about 3mm in bass and 5mm in trebble, basically as close as it will get without bouncing, put on a very tight set of hammer springs, and made a drastic change of puting in a set of hammers that normally would go into a 290 Bösey... Adjusting capstains i didnt leave the hammer resting on the hammer rest rail, instead, i adjusted them so that theyr about 5mm off the rail, in other words the butt is resting on the jack. (adjusted the action brakets to make sure hammers keep the same blow distance as if they were rested on the rail)... Shokingly the action became as heavy as on a new grand piano.. however, it has also became intensely sencitive, and repetition is fast and clean (atleast as far as i can play).... it almost feels like im playing my old Bosey 290... While i was as it i lubricated center pins and front rail pins with some oil for guns... yes for guns :-)... and i was astonished and what a diference this experiment made.... Now my question is, is making such experiments ok? and if so why dont most manufacturers today who make good quality uprights dont mess around more with the actions they make? Alicia Evans Philadelphia <div align=center> <hr></div> Get 5GB of online storage for free! <a href=http://clk.atdmt.com/%20%20UKM/go/msnnkmgl001000000%20%205ukm/direct/01/ target=_blank>Get it Now! </a>= <div align=center> <hr></div> <a href="http://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=aolcmp00050000000011" target=_blank>Get the Moviefone Toolbar</a>. 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