<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"> <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Les,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'> I would never “share” the tunings with another tuner when it is known to me that such is the case. The reasons you mentioned are enough of a reason but additionally it is a slap in the face to you! I don’t need business like that. If I’m not trusted why did you hire me in the first place?!<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Greg Newell<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Greg's Piano Forté<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>www.gregspianoforte.com<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>216-226-3791 (office)<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>216-470-8634 (mobile)<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Magness<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 04, 2008 6:37 PM<br> <b>To:</b> l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net; Pianotech List<br> <b>Cc:</b> Barbara Jones<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: need some opinions<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Leslie Bartlett <<a href="mailto:l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net">l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I have been a tuner for a large church in town, the other tuner having retired.  I learned that actually was not quite the case. I have been sharing the tunings with another tuner in the city.  The church's pianist indicated some time ago she wished me to come with her and tell her why she "hated the Steinway"......  Well, it was tuned to 440, while the pipe organ was about 13 cents flat..................  So having fixed the disparity (not tuning the pipe organ, to be sure), the Steinway seemed quite more agreeable.<br> <br> For a major recent concert the piano was tuned by the other tuner.  I was called this week to "bring the piano up to pitch" because a major concert venue was to use it this weekend.  Here is what I found.  The variance was from +17 cents, to -23 cents, most of the top octave being 20 or more cents flat, and the low-to mid sections being mostly 6-to-ten cents sharp.  My typical tunings of that piano will vary as much as seven cents over three-four months in a worship room seating nearly 1000, and in which the heating/air conditioning is on/off, on/off, depending on whether the room is being used.<br> <br> I informed the pianist that I could not share such tunings with another tuner because it would ultimately affect the piano, and could affect the reputations of two tuners.   I would appreciate some opinions as to the veracity (or not) of my statements.  If you would "reply all", then your responses will also go to the pianist of the church, unedited by myself.  Thanks<br> les bartlett<br> houston<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><br> Hi Les & Barbara,<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I began tuning at a major university some years back as a "fill-in" for another tech who had to be out of town. I was informed by the man who arranged for the tunings that he would like to add my name to his "list" of techs available to tune as needed. I explained to him the importance of choosing one person for the work and perhaps an alternate should that person not be available. <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I told him that although the piano may sound fine when each different person finishes with it and it may satisfy the musician using it, it still wasn't good for the piano to have 3 or 4 different people tuning the piano. We as techs, each develop techniques that work for us, that "leave our mark" so to speak, on the piano, when someone else comes to tune they change that "mark" and it is ultimately harmful to the piano to be changed so often.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>A piano can be and is, every bit as delicate as a violin in many respects and should have a continuity of care from one person whenever possible. One person will keep track of the history, any problems beginning to develop and advise the owner/manager of the instrument, of a course of action.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I was chosen as the tech for that particular instance, I believe primarily because I bothered to take the time to give him the advice, my friend that I was filling in for serves as my alternate.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Regarding the tuning of the pipe organ and the piano, IMHO this is a "battle" that cannot be won, pipe organs vary too much, cost too much to tune and change too often to retune as often as they go out.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Most of the churches I tune for that have both, try for having them in tune together at Christmas or Easter and the rest of the time use them seperately.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Mike<br clear=all> <br> -- <br> Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. <br> Vince Lombardi<br> <br> Michael Magness<br> Magness Piano Service<br> 608-786-4404<br> <a href="http://www.IFixPianos.com">www.IFixPianos.com</a><br> email <a href="mailto:mike@ifixpianos.com">mike@ifixpianos.com</a> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </body> </html>