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<div>I tried pitchlocks to no avail today. Also pulled the action towards me a bit with no apparent change. Voicing helps only to the extent that if any of these notes are louder in volume, naturally when they're voiced down the partial shimmer is down as well - but still noticeably different from other notes outside this area.</div><div><br></div><div>Several other new B's and (to a lesser extent) some D's I've checked have the same sound in this area.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for all your suggestions; if I find anything that works, I'll certainly pass it on.</div><div><br></div><div>Allen Wright</div><br><div><div>On Jul 5, 2008, at 2:28 PM, John Formsma wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">When you find out the solution, let me know.<br><br>I have one customer with the identical problem on a Steinway B. However, the shimmering sound is on C3. The customer described it as a telephone ringing, which is an apt description. <br> <br>Since then, I've also noticed similar sounds on some D's, and also on a Yamaha C6 (but I forget which note it was on the Yamaha). But none as prominent as on the Steinway B.<br><br>Instructors at convention classes have said the following about longitudinal noise: Lower the tension, and if the same noise is there at the same pitch, it's longitudinal. No one has yet been willing to pay me for discovering a solution, so I don't have any practical experience in this.<br> <br>--<br>JF<br></blockquote></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><br></font><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span> </div><br></body></html>