<html> <body> Al - I read through them all again, just to make sure.  I can't say that I'm seeing what you are.  There were no personal attacks, expect maybe Ron's uncharacteristic tourettzian episode.  Les' reputation is intact.  He asked for advice, and I think he got some. David Skolnik Hastings on Hudson, NY At 08:35 AM 7/6/2008, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Some further thoughts. Les was here to ask for some help and advice. Instead he received personal attacks...........Sham!   I see a man who has spent years trying to build a reputation. That tree was cut down here in less than a week.   Al Guecia     From: <a href="mailto:AlliedPianoCraft@hotmail.com">AlliedPianoCraft</a> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 7:46 AM To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</a> Subject: Re: need some opinions WOW! ...................Did you guys take some nasty pills? I think some kind of apology is in order here.   This list is for learning and education. I think it's turning into a shooting gallery.   Al Guecia     From: <a href="mailto:l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net">Leslie Bartlett</a> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:44 PM To: <a href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net">ilvey@sbcglobal.net</a> ; <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</a> Subject: Re: need some opinions Oh, for your edification, I strongly recommended the lady write to Ron, whose work and opinions i value highly.  I would be very please if she did so.  No the "other guy" did not file or voice the hammers, nor did he touch the really bad regulation, just did a horrible tuning.  So thanks for your friendly repast, your support for a toooner with a very good reputation for high quality work and integrity- but I suppose no one checked my web site to find what other significant musicians have felt about it.  Nah- it's not worth it. Why mess up perfectly set opinions. <a href="http://www.bartlettpianoservice.com"> www.bartlettpianoservice.com</a>.     Any positive things in there have to be lies or accidents, for sure. thanks again lb David Ilvedson wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> <pre>Yeah, I don't see the ruining the pianos part either...but Les's partner in crime might really like file new hammers to get the voicing right... Ron, did you take your pill today? David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, CA  94044 ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: "Ron Nossaman" <a href="mailto:rnossaman@cox.net"><rnossaman@cox.net></a> To: <a href="mailto:l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net">l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net</a>, "Pianotech List" <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><pianotech@ptg.org></a> Received: 7/4/2008 8:25:34 PM Subject: Re: need some opinions   </pre> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> <pre>Uh, would it be smart to say that there is no bottom to the well of human stupidity.        </pre></blockquote></blockquote> <pre>   </pre> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> <pre>If not PC, yes.     </pre></blockquote> <pre>   </pre> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> <pre>I have gone to great pains to educate the pianist at this church, and she's getting all these posts. I wrote her a nasty note yesterday which resulted in a long conversation about, well the director is new, and there are this and that, and so forth. I said to her, "It's time to poopoo or get off the pot, because you are about to get an instrument at $100K plus and two seven foot instruments, and you know more than 90%of the performing artists about a piano, so the time is now to get off your butt and get this resolved because you're going to ruin three brand new instruments with this 'share the wealth' policy."        </pre></blockquote></blockquote> <pre>   </pre> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> <pre>Concept alert! Ruin!!?? Hold on here. Do I understand this right, that you are trying to sell the concept that having techs other than you tuning the pianos will ruin them??? Just who the Hell do you think you are that anyone else other than you tuning these pianos will "ruin" them? I've seen a lot of ego fired into the sky on this list, expecting a celestial display with an indeterminate powder charge, but this is asking a whole lot! Les, get real!     </pre></blockquote> <pre>   </pre> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> <pre>She understood, so I told her I had put the situation on Pianotech and she would have a lot of documentation from good people........  it has happened. Thanks les       </pre></blockquote></blockquote> <pre>   </pre> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> <pre>Hopefully, she won't contact me. Ron N     </pre></blockquote> <pre>   </pre></blockquote>No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1535 - Release Date: 7/4/2008 5:03 PM</blockquote></body> </html>