<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16674" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=MailContainerBody style="PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-TOP: 15px" bgColor=#ffffff leftMargin=0 topMargin=0 CanvasTabStop="true" name="Compose message area"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial> <DIV><FONT face=Arial> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kendall Ross Bean wrote</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>Al~</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>Thanks for the "tip". A ground down screwdriver seems like a good tool for prying out beckets.</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>Question: When prying out the beckets, do you take the coil off the tuning pin as well before backing the pin out? Or do you just leave the coil on the pin? </EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial>I leave the coil on the tuning pin. I used to pull the coils off the pins, but it was a lot of work and you would need to cut the coils before you could pull the pins. Very cramped with the tuning pins in place.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=486081005-08072008></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>When I have tried the latter the becket for some reason often gets caught back in the eye (hole) of the tuning pin as you spin the pin out, or sometimes tangles up in the coil, and winds the string back up the opposite direction, often snapping it before you can stop the drill.  </EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial>I pull to becket out of the pin and make sure it's below the hole in the tuning pin. Works best if you turn the tuning pin out 1 full turn before you start.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>I guess that's one reason I use the becket breaker, 'cuz I don't have to pull the coil off the pin, and the becket is cut, so it can't catch. But maybe you have a way to pry the becket out and pop the coil off the pin at the same time, with the same flip of the wrist?</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008>Again, it's a lot of work and you would need to cut the coils before you could pull the pins.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>I even tried a pneumatic driver for a while in my younger days (see last photo, 629a) but it was too hard to control. Tended to spin the pins too fast, and often they wouldn't back out completely as with the slower drills. Some guys just love them though, and use them all the time.</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><EM><SPAN class=486081005-08072008>What's everyone else using?</SPAN> <SPAN class=486081005-08072008> -Just curious.</SPAN></EM></FONT></FONT></DIV></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008>I have been using an old Sears 1/2" industrial drill. Slow speed and very powerful. It's about 30 years old and works like new</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008>I hope this helps,</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=486081005-08072008><BR>Al Guecia<BR>Allied PianoCraft<BR>PO Box 1549<BR>High Point, NC 27261<BR>(336) 454-2000<BR><A title="mailto:PianoTech@alliedpianocraft.com
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CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:kenbean@pacbell.net">Kendall Ross Bean</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:06 AM</DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Becket breaker? - Technique, and Tools for pin removal</DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML>