<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16674" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>Matthew,</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>    I  think calling the manufacturer can help.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>I will suggest however that in our trade one valuable asset is mechanical apptitude and improvisation.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>I marvel at the jigs, gauges  and tooling cooked up by some of list contributers.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>Check out Ron N's floating drill press ,Jude R's bridge location device posted recently and any number of other neat "inventions" that</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2> are born out of both need , creativity and the willingness to "dig in" and even fail along the way. </FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>    Yes there are many choices in the hardware store and by digging around for one item I stumble across some nylon spacers , a threaded coupler,a neoprene washer or who knows what that might  complete that key leveling jig  I've  had in my head for a while.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>I guess I'd like for you to have as much fun as I do poking through the thingamajigs.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>One of the clerks at my local place saw me with my head in the bins and said :</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>    "Watcha cookin' up this time?"</FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>    </FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>    Best wishes my Compadre  ,</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>Tom Driscoll RPT</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>    </FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>P.S.I should mention --- Forget the big box stores i.e. H.D. or Lowes and find the well equipted local  hardware place. The one with the old guy's smoking cigarettes by the propane tank.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>They know where everything is and also know when to leave you alone !</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>    </FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #008000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=toddpianoworks@att.net href="mailto:toddpianoworks@att.net">Matthew Todd</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ilvey@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net">ilvey@sbcglobal.net</A> ; <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Muffler Hardware</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Because, to go into a hardware store and get the help you deserve can be a loosing battle!</DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>    </FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV>There is a lot to consider when shopping for screws, you guys make it sound easy!  There is the thread count (no not your sheets), but whether a screw has US threads or metric threads.  Does the screw have a flush head or a beveled head.  Not to mention what kind of screwdriver is required to turn it!  When you take all that into consideration and all these options have to turn out to one particular screw, yes, it can be hard!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That is why I was asking to see if there is another place.  But yes, I will give Yamaha a call.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Matthew<BR><BR><B><I>David Ilvedson <ilvey@sbcglobal.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <DIV>this is the yamaha installed muffler system?   If so call Yamaha...what's so hard about a hardware store?   get a number of different sizes...</DIV> <DIV>I think Quiet Keys is a "brand name" add on muffler...<BR><BR>David Ilvedson, RPT<BR>Pacifica, CA 94044<BR><BR></DIV> <DIV style="PADDING-RIGHT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 3px solid; PADDING-TOP: 5px"> <HR> Original message<BR>From: "Matthew Todd" <TODDPIANOWORKS@ATT.NET> </TODDPIANOWORKS@ATT.NET><BR>To: "Pianotech List" <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG> </PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>Received: 7/9/2008 3:49:25 PM<BR>Subject: Re: Muffler Hardware<BR><BR> <DIV align=left>No way!  I went to one today and picked up a few things that didn't work.  We're talkin about a zillion different threads for one size screw!  If someone had the exact specs on the screws that would be great.  I do not feel like spending my entire day looking for the exact fit.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I was just hoping a supply house would carry what I would need.  Or, I guess, Yamaha.  Anyone else have any ideas?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thank you Tom, but no thank you.</DIV> <DIV>Matthew<BR><BR><B><I>Tom Driscoll <tomtuner@verizon.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>Matthew,</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>    Looking for hardware? I'd try the hardware store.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>They have all sorts of things in those little bins.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>Best wishes,</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2>Tom --the hardware store junkie--- Driscoll</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #008000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=toddpianoworks@att.net href="mailto:toddpianoworks@att.net">Matthew Todd</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Muffler Hardware</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Does anyone know where to get some hardware for the Quiet Keys System you commonly find on Yamaha U-1's?  I am just talking about the wingnut that goes on the bass side, and the two little screws that go on the treble side, that are used to connect the actual muffler bar.<BR><BR><BR>Thank you,<BR><BR>Matthew<BR> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P> <HR> <P></P>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG. <BR>Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1542 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 6:50 AM<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>