<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Google <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 11px; white-space: pre; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">hybrid motorcycle and the top selection is an Ecycle. Looks pretty good.</span><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Grande'" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; white-space: pre; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Jonathan Best</div><div><a href="mailto:jb@bubblemusic.com">jb@bubblemusic.com</a></div><div>928-830-4887</div><div><a href="http://www.bubblemusic.com">www.bubblemusic.com</a></div></div></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Jul 12, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Farrell wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div class="hmmessage" bgcolor="#ffffff" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><div><font face="Arial" size="3">Hey - I'm the craziest! Actually, my justification for buying a motorcycle was to evaluate whether I would find riding one around in local traffic tolerable before I dug into building an electric motorcycle. I've seen two electric motorcycles similar to the Zero, but oriented more for the street - but both are in the $12K range. This Zero motorbike looks pretty good - although I wish it were more street oriented. I wonder how well it would compare to my motorcycle as a piano service vehicle.</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="3"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="3">Be aware that the range of these electric vehicles are usually based on speeds of 25 mph or less. Usually, if it is ridden at 50 mph or so, the range really tanks. But hey - maybe one could ride it to appointments within a 10 to 20 mile radius - if you could plug it in while tuning a piano, you'd be all set. I'm glad to see that someone is making an electric motorcycle for $7,500.</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="3"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="3">Hmmmmmm - where are they being sold.......????</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="3"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="3">Terry Farrell</font></div><blockquote dir="ltr" style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="fmurray@cruzio.com" href="mailto:fmurray@cruzio.com">Fenton Murray</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="pianotech@ptg.org" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:35 PM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: hypermiling? (OT?)</div><div><br></div><div><font face="Arial">Terry P,</font></div><div><font face="Arial">Terry F. is actually the one I though would be crazy enough to buy one, I think. No offence, Terry. The re-charge/range ratio will get better quick. Also, for spins on the dirt bike around town or in the hills, 40 miles isn't bad. 1 cent per mile. Drive a SUV at 10 mpg and $5. per gallon 1000 miles=$500.</font></div><div><font face="Arial">People are buying them.</font></div><div><font face="Arial">Fenton</font></div><blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="pianolover88@hotmail.com" href="mailto:pianolover88@hotmail.com">pianolover 88</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="pianotech@ptg.org" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 11, 2008 6:47 PM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: hypermiling? (OT?)</div><div><br></div>Wow! It has a whopping 40 mile range and then only TWO HOURS to wait around for it to recharge. All that for only $7,500! Get out of my way, I'm beating own the door for one!<br><br>Terry Peterson<br><br><hr>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:fmurray@cruzio.com">fmurray@cruzio.com</a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br>Subject: Re: hypermiling? (OT?)<br>Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:35:34 -0700<br><br><div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><font face="Arial">Dude,</font></font></div><div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2">Here you go, local company here in Santa Cruz, serious stuff from a young genius engineer.</font></div><div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><a href="http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/" target="_blank">http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/</a></font></div><div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2">Fenton</font></div><div align="left"> </div></div></div><blockquote dir="ltr" style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><div><br></div><div><font face="Arial">Hello Holly,</font></div><div><font face="Arial">You've tapped the nerve of a hyper-hypermiler! Our family has three vehicles. The big transportation <font color="#ff0000" size="6">PIG</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>or our family is a 2002 Saturn Ion that gets 25 mpg. The second is a Toyota Prius that has averaged 53 mpg over two-and-a-half-years - we bought it new for about $25K (as far as a car goes, I love it!). The third vehicle is a 2002 Yamaha 650 V Star Classic motorcycle that I bought 8 months ago for $2,900 - it only had 1,050 miles on it and was in near-showroom condition. My average fuel mileage for the first 8 months has been 55 mpg. Recently (like a week ago) I put an "air kit", an open exhaust sytem on it and a taller rear tire that reduces the overall gear ratio and got an honest 65 mpg on my last tank. I suspect with some hypermiling techniques I will be able to push that up to 70 mpg.</font></div><div><font face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial">Next is an electric motorcycle.</font></div><div><font face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial">Stay in touch. Happy to talk about this stuff till your eyeballs pop out! ;-)</font></div><div><font face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial">You struck a nerve......</font></div><div><font face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial">Terry Farrell</font></div><blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: 0% 50%; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="hollyquigley@gmail.com" href="mailto:hollyquigley@gmail.com">holly quigley</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="pianotech@ptg.org" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:08 PM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>hypermiling? (OT?)</div><div><br></div>So has anyone tried "hypermiling" yet? I figure with all the time we spend on the road in our profession, it might be of interest here. I can't afford the downpayment on a Prius just now, and unfortunately my better half is too worried to agree to entertain the thought of a motorcycle for work. I drive a manual transmission PT Cruiser, and with gas prices the way they're going, the topic of hypermiling was quite interesting. So far I'm getting 31mpg in the city now, just by doing a bunch of coasting and slower thoughtful driving. Given that I'm due for an oil change, a tuneup, tire rotation and who knows what else, I was impressed. The perk on top of that is a big reduction in stress, not to mention the increased safety. I guess I didn't realize how much stress I put on myself by rushing around driving fast! Does anyone want to discuss?<br><br>-Holly Quigley<br>Ticking off Drivers in the Fast and Furious City of Atlanta<br></blockquote></blockquote><br><hr>The i’m Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld" target="_new">Find out now.</a></blockquote></blockquote></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>